On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 7:17 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unlike debates for the general election for president, which are generally
> organized by some neutral group and covered as a public event by any media
> outlet that chooses to, debates for party nominations are party events,
> that the party contracts with a media partner to produce and carry.
>
> I am quite familiar with the New Yorker piece, and take second place to no
> one in my scorn and disgust at Fox News network. But excluding them is
> contrary to core values that (as a long time active member of the
> Democratic Party) I belive should be part of the Party’s DNA.
>

All partisanship is exclusionary by definition. Democrats exclude
conservatives; Republicans exclude progressives. Democrats are
theoretically the party of inclusion, but frankly all are not welcome. For
example, I could not conceive of a scenario in which the Democrats would
agree to have Alex Jones moderate a debate for them on InfoWars. The point
of primary debates is to give those in the party a chance to hear from the
candidates. If it can be demonstrated or proven that the majority of
Democrats do not watch FoxNews, it makes sense to exclude them from
contention as a host for a debate.


> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 6:26 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A question from me on this: when a primary debate is hosted by one
>> network, are other networks not able to cover it live anyway? If so, then
>> they may choose not to - after all the branding will be for a rival - but
>> that's a choice they make.
>>
>> In Brian Stelter of CNN's email today he noted: "[Fox News] held a town
>> hall with Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders in 2016, but it hasn't held an
>> actual Dem primary debate since 2004."
>>
>> In fact, you would think it to be of interest to Democrats to get some
>> familiarity with their candidates early on, so they're more of a known
>> quantity later. But given some of the things that came out of Jane Mayer's
>> New Yorker piece this week (Give yourself plenty of time to read it if you
>> haven't already:
>> https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/03/11/the-making-of-the-fox-news-white-house)
>> you can completey understand the Democratic position. The story makes
>> renewed clams about Trump being given advance notice of questions in a
>> Republican primary, and if that's the case, then even a debate held within
>> the news division couldn't be guaranteed as fair.
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:32 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I hope they reconsider this also. Fox News is horrible, but it is not
>>> the place of the people who want to run our government to decide which news
>>> organizations they want to cover them. There are going to be 12 debates
>>> this year (2019), it doesn’t really matter what the ratings would be on Fox
>>> News. DNC could insist that only people identify by FN as being full time
>>> in the “news” side (not opinion) are involved.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 7:33 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FOX News seems fixated on AOC. I'm surprised they'd want to hear from
>>>> other Democrats.
>>>> NEW YORK (AP) - The Democratic National Committee says it won't pick
>>>> Fox News to televise one of the upcoming debates being held for its 2020
>>>> presidential contenders.
>>>> The party chairman, Tom Perez, says he's concluded that the network
>>>> isn't in a position to host a fair and neutral debate. He's citing a New
>>>> Yorker magazine article released Monday that details Fox's relationship
>>>> with President Donald Trump.
>>>> Even before the article, some Democratic activists were complaining
>>>> about the committee's consideration of Fox as a potential broadcast 
>>>> partner.
>>>> The Democrats have announced 12 debates for later this year, with NBC
>>>> News and CNN set to broadcast the first two.
>>>> Fox says it hopes the Democrats will reconsider.
>>>>
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