That is a dubious argument for not defending adequately against COVID-19, and it is an even worse defense for John Wayne and Orange County. We are talking about 1979 (when they named the airport) not 1779. There were plenty of Americans who knew racism was wrong at that time. If a particular herd refused to see that, they are assholes, not immune.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:24 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote: > Herd immunity. Everyone around him was infected with racism. > On Jun 30, 2020, at 12:49 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No. He wasn’t. I’m saying that too. But how is that a point in his >> defense? >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:44 AM Steve Timko < [email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I am saying he wasn't much of an outlier in the Republican Party >>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 6:35 AM, PGage < [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I’m not sure your first point is a defense. Orange County chose to name >>>> the airport after him when it was proud of its identity as a bastion of >>>> white, conservative, Republican power in Sothern California, specifically >>>> to celebrate and brand itself with Wayne’s brand of thinly veiled racism >>>> and jingoism. The county is substantially (though not completely) different >>>> today, and no surprise a majority there no longer want the racist brand. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:41 PM Steve Timko < [email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What John Wayne said was inexcusable and likely he said much worse in >>>>> private. >>>>> Two points in his defense: >>>>> His views were not that far from typical Republican views at the time >>>>> (read transcripts of the Nixon tapes) and sadly not far enough from the >>>>> beliefs of most white Americans. >>>>> He fully owned the racist character in "The Searchers" and Hollywood >>>>> has produced few movies as anti-Trumpanzee as "The Searchers." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 7:05 PM PGage < [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And yet, there are many people who call the Orange County Airport >>>>>> John Wayne. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> M-D November, today (6/29): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, what was the rationale behind that, anyway? 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