On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:29 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is a dubious argument for not defending adequately against COVID-19,
> and it is an even worse defense for John Wayne and Orange County. We are
> talking about 1979 (when they named the airport) not 1779. There were
> plenty of Americans who knew racism was wrong at that time. If a particular
> herd refused to see that, they are assholes, not immune.
>

Yeah, you’ve succinctly described the majority of Orange County residents.



> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 4:24 PM Steve Timko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Herd immunity. Everyone around him was infected with racism.
>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 12:49 PM, PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> No. He wasn’t. I’m saying that too. But how is that a point in his
>>> defense?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 8:44 AM Steve Timko < [email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am saying he wasn't much of an outlier in the Republican Party
>>>> On Jun 30, 2020, at 6:35 AM, PGage < [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m not sure your first point is a defense. Orange County chose to
>>>>> name the airport after him when it was proud of its identity as a bastion
>>>>> of white, conservative, Republican power in Sothern California,
>>>>> specifically to celebrate and brand itself with Wayne’s brand of thinly
>>>>> veiled racism and jingoism. The county is substantially (though not
>>>>> completely) different today, and no surprise a majority there no longer
>>>>> want the racist brand.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 8:41 PM Steve Timko < [email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What John Wayne said was inexcusable and likely he said much worse in
>>>>>> private.
>>>>>> Two points in his defense:
>>>>>> His views were not that far from typical Republican views at the time
>>>>>> (read transcripts of the Nixon tapes) and sadly not far enough from the
>>>>>> beliefs of most white Americans.
>>>>>> He fully owned the racist character in "The Searchers" and Hollywood
>>>>>> has produced few movies as anti-Trumpanzee as "The Searchers."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 7:05 PM PGage < [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And yet, there are many people who call the Orange County Airport
>>>>>>> John Wayne.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 11:31 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> M-D November, today (6/29):
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, what was the rationale behind that, anyway?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Airports for the most part are named for where they are (sorry,
>>>>>>>> NY), and many a SoCal'er knew there wasn't a city there named for Hope,
>>>>>>>> so...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.bizjournals.com/losangeles/news/2017/12/15/bob-hope-airport-renamed-so-passengers-know-where.html
>>>>>>>>  (link)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> B
>>>>>>>>
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