Definitely. Award show ratings are consistently declining, and no doubt GG
would have been down this year no matter what. But the huge decline made so
much of by CNN are almost certainly pandemic related, and perhaps the
recent stories in the news that have laid bare just what a farce the HFP is.

I noted that several, presenters somewhat desperately repeated like a
mantra “during the pandemic all of us have been doing nothing but watching
movies and television stuck at home”. Not sure if that is propaganda or
self delusion, but clearly most Americans have not been spending their
pandemic watching prestige projects (or even that’s ridiculous Sia film).
Most of the projects that came anywhere near close to critical mass viewing
were not nominated for one reason or another.

On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 9:15 AM Adam Bowie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Even allowing for the fact that I've never understood why the Golden
> Globes are remotely considered of interest - any more than, say, my
> personal picks of the last year - and even before reading the recent LAT
> pieces on the Hollywood Foreign Press Association as well as learning that
> they are as white as a sheet, I did read that this was the first year for
> several years that the ceremony hadn't fallen after an NFL playoff game.
> Also, nobody's really heard of many of the films this year because nobody*
> has been to the cinema and all the big releases have been pushed.
>
> I don't doubt there are underlying reasons for awards shows' decline, but
> some of those might come into play.
>
>
> Adam
>
> * I realise that's a gross generalisation, and cinemas may be open where
> you live. Personally, I only saw Tenet in a cinema in the last 12 months,
> and normally go at least once every couple of weeks on average...
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 5:02 PM PGage <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I largely agree, though I think both you and the CNN piece may be making
>> an exaggerated, or at least still premature, obituary, both on awards shows
>> and television. Millions of Americans still watch television every day,
>> just a lot less than they used to. Even averagely successful broadcast
>> shows are still a pretty good way to reach concentrated numbers of eyeballs
>> for advertisers.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 8:21 AM Tom Wolper <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:11 PM Kevin M. <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Viewership down 60%
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/02/entertainment/golden-globe-ratings/index.html
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was going to post last summer an observation I had about TV: for
>>> almost all of my life, the situation of lockdown we were in would have led
>>> to amazing ratings for network television. Everyone was stuck in their
>>> houses in the evening. Yet if there was a bump in ratings it wasn't enough
>>> to draw any attention. I ultimately never wrote it up because there was
>>> nothing to interpret from it. We all know the myriad of options and non-TV
>>> distractions.
>>>
>>> But the above story makes my observation from last year relevant. Even
>>> if network TV shows draw more viewers than cable TV shows (streaming
>>> services don't release their numbers), network TV has become marginal to
>>> American culture and changes in ratings are no longer meaningful. People
>>> didn't tune in to the Golden Globes for the same reason they don't tune in
>>> to network TV every day.
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