classicsat wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "Norman Sussman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've read that Canadian reception of U.S. transmissions has been ruled > > illegal by a Canadian court. Canadians cannot buy us transmissions. > > The last statement is more or less true. Basically, you cannot > subscribe to a foreign service that has not gained the approval of the > Canadian regulatory agencies. And non encrypted service is pretty well > fair game, although there may be iternational treaties and that making > it illegal to receive signals, even FTA, not from a satellite or > transmission licensed for Canada. > Ya that's what Bell and Starchoice want to happen, I am not sure if it has yet or not though. But if and when it does Canadian cable and sat services will die a fast death. If it gets passed I don't think the cable companies or the sat companies will be able to afford to have fiber optic lines installed from all over to have the programming sent to them as that will be about the only way to get programming. If it becomes law that we can't get it then they won't be able to either, finally approval was given for RAI to be available here and some cable companies are now carrying and bell and Starchoice should soon see it also, but since it does not originate in canada and come from a Canadian sat then it will have to go, along with how many other signals that come from the sats. > > > Personally, I don't believe that should be considered illegal. I > > I do to,, within reason ( namely if a provider can get rights that > include Canada, and can reasonably make their service into something > Canadians will buy, why not?) > > > believe the court is ruling on the side of the Canadian sellers; to > > protect them. If the U.S. transmitters don't want Canadians to receive > > their signals, they should use spot beams that don't cross the border. > > No, conditional access works well, as long as it is respected. The > various regulatory and enforcement agencies and corporatinos recognize > a CA system as an adequate point of access. > > > By the content of your email, it has the appears that you have a "dog in > > this fight". > > > > OIn the whole though, this is getting a bit OT, from the discussion of > Dishnetwork theft, which has no bearing on what rights Canadians may > or may not have to US servcies. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > classicsat > > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 7:59 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [TVRO] Re: dish network changed now? > > > > --- In [email protected], "Norman Sussman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Call it whatever you want to. However, I've stated the facts to > > inform > > > the group. Do you disapprove of that? If we don't exchange > > > information, then how do you expect knowledge to be spread? > > > > > > > No, call it what it is. Calling it anything but theft is > > disinformation, and misleads people into thinking there might be > > nothing wrong with it. I expect knowlege to be spread truthfully and > > accurately, now whitewashed to make theives feel good about their > > activities. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > classicsat > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 12:28 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [TVRO] Re: dish network changed now? > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Norman Sussman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Actually, Nagra2 (which, as you stated: is being used in Europe) has > > > > been hacked. They use a card system. The cards are routinely > > > > falsified, enabling reception of all the pay channels. > > > > The Canadian satellites have been using Nagra1; they have already > > made > > > > the switch to Nagra2. DirectTV uses a different encryption system. > > > > Dish Network uses Nagra1, but is changing to Nagra2. > > > > > > To be clear, it is just not reception, it is theft. > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > Community email addresses: > Post message: mailto:[email protected] > Subscribe: mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > List owner: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/TVRO > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- If Fed Ex merged with UPS, the resulting company would be Fed UPS. What would they call the merger of Cunningham Air Freight and Aer Lingus? Bumper sticker of the year: If you can read this, thank a teacher....and since it's in English, thank a soldier." 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