On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 2:41:01 PM UTC+3, Cathal (Phone) wrote:
>
> You're swapping context. 
>
Nope. The context was [and remains] censorship.  

Because Tor *cannot* filter content
>
And that's a *good* thing. Right? It's not "poor litle tor, too bad it 
can't censor", it's a feature. Unlike tor, for twister, 
censorship-resillience is *the* feature.
Now *you* stop switching context [to tor] :p
 

> , Jacob, and I, agree that investigating CP sites needs to be a forensic 
> task.
>
> Maybe, but what you don't seem to agree with Jacob is that if there *is* 
a way to block information, it *will* be used by *hostile* poeple against 
benign *victims*. 

> Twister may have similar goals but is architecturally entirely unlike Tor.
>
Right. 

> It's more like Freenet without baked-in traffic mixing.
>
I wasn't the one who talked against switching context, but please, stick to 
the point. Twister, censorship, paedo, forensics, apelbaum.
 

> Pedo material is shared in cleartext, replicated, and stored by all users 
> adjacent to it.
>
So now you're a paedo expert? [citation needed]
 

> It can and should be filtered by them, '
>
 

> and if they feel like helping investigators they should record where they 
> got it so the source can be located.
>
> Investigations are not something you should "feel happy" to cooperate 
with. Formal investigations are 99% coverups by the paedos themselves [UK 
prime fokking minister Heath used to *be* one FFS. Would you be "happy" to 
help an investigation by his lackeys?] Heck. To *really* investigate in 
such an environment you need bigger balls than Annie Machon ;) 


Even so, intermediaries shouldn't be liable if they unknowingly relayed CP.
>
Wrong: by giving people the "right" to censor [because paedo is bad and 
nevermind forensic I got a smart answer here etc.] you turn them into 
hostages [say, of a paedo judge]. Today I can't stop relaying shit even if 
I wanted. This is something I can tell a judge.
Don't *rob me* of this important *right* by saying you're giving me the 
right of choice. I'm no choire boy. I'll bite your dick off if you get 
cheeky.

 

> But that's a legal issue,
>
Legal issues are for the poor. The rich get bailouts, not justice
 

> code can't help with that.
>
google up "code is law lessig"

 

> People think if Twister is deliberately designed not to let me filter 
> content that I can claim helplessness before a judge?
>
Yes
 

> Don't make me laugh. A judge would throw that out instantly.
>
And do what? impelement that feature? He can't do it unless you [his 
minion] helps
 

> Twister is not Tor. Parallels between the two aare technically and legally 
> worthless.
>
>  

> You want me to knowingly store and forward child porn and think my failure 
> to is "cebsorship" or "obstructing justice"?
>
Yes!!!!!!1
 

> You understand neither word.
>
> Enlighten me

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