Anthony:

Can you comment out the "WRITE" and replace with a "RELEASE" in the update
code.  This should identify the problem to either reads or writes.

Next, try deactivating the indexes then rerun the update.  This should
isolate the indexing code and identify/eliminate it as an issue.

Hope this helps a little.

Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony
> Dzikiewicz
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:21 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> Richardson
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue
>
>
> Moving/Editing a parameter in uvconfig is only a small step in process
> of making that change active in your systems actively running uv. Simply
> editing the uvconfig file itself does not dynamically change the
> currently running uv.
>
> You'll have to re-generate, or build, UV after making those changes, and
> that, of course will require uv being stopped, and restarted after the
> new parameter changes being made in the uvconfig file. Please consult
> the appropriate official UV documentation for details on how to do this,
> or ask for assistance from a consultant if you're not comfortable with
> these types of things.
>
> ---
> This much I do know an have done.  Somethings read are understandable in
> theory, but what they really do is sometimes another thing in the real
> world.  Experience is everything.
> ----
>
> If you make any Linux kernel parameter changes, same concept applies:
> you'll need to rebuild the Linux kernel and reboot for those to take
> affect. Again, if not comfortable here, well worth having a consultant
> come in for a few hours and help you with both tasks, and you could take
> notes and learn, in case you need to tackle such tasks again in the
> future.
>
> ---
> No Linux changes are required.  Linux works and doesn't seem to be the
> issue
> ---
>
>
> As for file sizing - just becasue those files have always been about
> that size, and always been Dynamic, doesn't mean that they're correct.
> Again, if not comfortable, ...
>
> --
> Remember that I also said that we were on DG/UX and it always handled
> this with no problem.  My feeling is that the particular version of
> Universe for DG/UX might have been tweaked a little.  One time when I
> was up at the DG benchmark lab in Marlboro, MA, I was told that they had
> source code for Universe and had made some changes that had to do with
> posix compliance.  So, Im guessing that maybe the DG version
> multi-threaded this a little better.
> ---
>
>
> I'd suggest the FAST  File Sizing tool/application from Fitzgerald &
> Long.
>
> It could be that the overhead of Dynamic Files in your situation may not
> be worth the benefit, especially if those files are not growing over
> time. Actual Mileages can and do vary here, of course.
>
> HTH!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Dzikiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:31 AM
> Subject: RE: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
> > Richardson
> > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:31 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue
> >
> >
> > In addition to what Trevor mentions, you may want to have a look at
> > the uvconfig parameters, as well as the underlying OS kernel
> > parameters, including file system settings, etc.
> >
> > I don't really have experience with messing with these params.  I did
> > increase MFILES to 300 from 12
> >
> >
> > Also, file system fragmentation may be an issue, depending on how long
>
> > it's been since it was looked at and addressed, especially if there is
>
> > a lot of reading / writing going on with this file system.
> >
> > How is your /tmp space, and swap space?
> >
> > No issues there.  /tmp is a plenty and swap is never more than 1/2
> > used
> >
> > What flavor and versions of  Linux, and UV?
> >
> > Red Hat 3
> >
> > This is a process that your run when other users are not on the
> > system, and possibly have these files open?
> >
> > Tried both ways.  Last night I got in when no one was on.  I shut down
>
> > UV and brought it back up fresh - same results.
> >
> > You are correct to first suspect file sizing. Depending on how
> > properly, or imporperly tuned they are, Dynamic files can introduce
> > some overhead.
> >
> > Just a few ideas off top of the head...
> >
> > Appreciated - Thanks
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anthony Dzikiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:11 PM
> > Subject: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue
> >
> >
> > > I am experiencing some strange behavior on our Linux machine.  We
> > > have
> > been
> > > running on this machine since October.  I am just getting into some
> > > file cleanup, year end rolls, etc..  What is happening is that the
> > > machine
> > comes
> > > down to a crawl.
> > >
> > > We were on DG/UX and this kind of thing never happened on that
> > > platform.
> > I
> > > could 'roll' files, etc and I never experienced anything like this.
> > >
> > > Linux itself seems to be moving along fine.  Anything in Universe
> > > takes almost 1/2 minute to get any response.
> > >
> > > Without the purge/cleanup programs running, everything is just
> > > peachy.
> > >
> > > The files are all Dynamic.  The programs are doing readu/delete,
> > > write. That is read a record and write it to a history file and
> > > delete
> >
> > > from
> > current
> > > file.  Or read a record, move this years data to last years fields
> > > and
> > write
> > > the record back out.
> > >
> > > Anybody experience this sort of thing ?  Anyway to tweak things up ?
>
> > > I
> > have
> > > an idea that the files might not be 'sized' correctly.  I also
> > > remember
> > that
> > > Universe on DG/UX was tweaked specfically for that OS.  So, maybe it
>
> > > was just more efficient at doing this kind of thing.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Anthony
> > >
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