Just to see... try an analyze.shm -d, and see how many dynamic files you have (<aside/> My personal opinion is that anything above "0" is probably too many, with some special exceptions. My saying this usually sparks a debate</aside>). Then look at the T30FILES parameter in uvconfig.

Also, in looking at the analyze.shm -d, if current mod exceeds base mod, you should resize that file. As it is listed by device & inode number, do a find . -inum <inode #> to identify the file.



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From: "Anthony Dzikiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:20:39 -0500

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott
Richardson
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue


Moving/Editing a parameter in uvconfig is only a small step in process of making that change active in your systems actively running uv. Simply editing the uvconfig file itself does not dynamically change the currently running uv.

You'll have to re-generate, or build, UV after making those changes, and
that, of course will require uv being stopped, and restarted after the
new parameter changes being made in the uvconfig file. Please consult
the appropriate official UV documentation for details on how to do this,
or ask for assistance from a consultant if you're not comfortable with
these types of things.

---
This much I do know an have done.  Somethings read are understandable in
theory, but what they really do is sometimes another thing in the real
world.  Experience is everything.
----

If you make any Linux kernel parameter changes, same concept applies:
you'll need to rebuild the Linux kernel and reboot for those to take
affect. Again, if not comfortable here, well worth having a consultant
come in for a few hours and help you with both tasks, and you could take
notes and learn, in case you need to tackle such tasks again in the
future.

---
No Linux changes are required.  Linux works and doesn't seem to be the
issue
---


As for file sizing - just becasue those files have always been about that size, and always been Dynamic, doesn't mean that they're correct. Again, if not comfortable, ...

--
Remember that I also said that we were on DG/UX and it always handled
this with no problem.  My feeling is that the particular version of
Universe for DG/UX might have been tweaked a little.  One time when I
was up at the DG benchmark lab in Marlboro, MA, I was told that they had
source code for Universe and had made some changes that had to do with
posix compliance.  So, Im guessing that maybe the DG version
multi-threaded this a little better.
---


I'd suggest the FAST File Sizing tool/application from Fitzgerald & Long.

It could be that the overhead of Dynamic Files in your situation may not
be worth the benefit, especially if those files are not growing over
time. Actual Mileages can and do vary here, of course.

HTH!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Dzikiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 9:31 AM
Subject: RE: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue


> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott > Richardson > Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 8:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue > > > In addition to what Trevor mentions, you may want to have a look at > the uvconfig parameters, as well as the underlying OS kernel > parameters, including file system settings, etc. > > I don't really have experience with messing with these params. I did > increase MFILES to 300 from 12 > > > Also, file system fragmentation may be an issue, depending on how long

> it's been since it was looked at and addressed, especially if there is

> a lot of reading / writing going on with this file system.
>
> How is your /tmp space, and swap space?
>
> No issues there.  /tmp is a plenty and swap is never more than 1/2
> used
>
> What flavor and versions of  Linux, and UV?
>
> Red Hat 3
>
> This is a process that your run when other users are not on the
> system, and possibly have these files open?
>
> Tried both ways.  Last night I got in when no one was on.  I shut down

> UV and brought it back up fresh - same results.
>
> You are correct to first suspect file sizing. Depending on how
> properly, or imporperly tuned they are, Dynamic files can introduce
> some overhead.
>
> Just a few ideas off top of the head...
>
> Appreciated - Thanks
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Dzikiewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:11 PM
> Subject: [U2] Universe/Linux Performance Issue
>
>
> > I am experiencing some strange behavior on our Linux machine.  We
> > have
> been
> > running on this machine since October.  I am just getting into some
> > file cleanup, year end rolls, etc..  What is happening is that the
> > machine
> comes
> > down to a crawl.
> >
> > We were on DG/UX and this kind of thing never happened on that
> > platform.
> I
> > could 'roll' files, etc and I never experienced anything like this.
> >
> > Linux itself seems to be moving along fine.  Anything in Universe
> > takes almost 1/2 minute to get any response.
> >
> > Without the purge/cleanup programs running, everything is just
> > peachy.
> >
> > The files are all Dynamic.  The programs are doing readu/delete,
> > write. That is read a record and write it to a history file and
> > delete
>
> > from
> current
> > file.  Or read a record, move this years data to last years fields
> > and
> write
> > the record back out.
> >
> > Anybody experience this sort of thing ?  Anyway to tweak things up ?

> > I
> have
> > an idea that the files might not be 'sized' correctly.  I also
> > remember
> that
> > Universe on DG/UX was tweaked specfically for that OS.  So, maybe it

> > was just more efficient at doing this kind of thing.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Anthony
> >
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