Hi, Microsoft and Oracle both GIVE away, yes I said give away versions of their database products, and they both interact easily with modern gui/web based development environments, and you can search HUGE knowledge bases of information about how to do something.
I know people in this group think U2 is the greatest, but that does not make it necessary to lock it up like the crown jewels. Questions: Why can't end users access the knowledgebase? Why isn't their developer versions of the U2 products, as it is the developers you generate UV license sales, not IBM? I can pay $900.00 NZD per year, and get a copy of MS Sql Server 2000, MS Exchange, MS SBS, 10 CALS for MS Professional XP, 10 CALS for MS Office 2003, Sharepoint Portal, MS 2003 Server, MS 2003 Web Edition all to use for demos or in house to run my business. Some people may wonder why you would develop something in U2? Cheers, Phil Walker +64 27 5336294 +64 3 3120352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gnosys Consulting Limited 25 Roscrea Place, Mandeville North, RD2 Kaiapoi, North Canterbury 8252, NEW ZEALAND DISCLAIMER: This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please also advise us by return e-mail that you have received the message and then please destroy. Gnosys Consulting Limited is not responsible for any changes made to this message and / or any attachments after sending by Gnosys Consulting Limited. We use virus scanning software but exclude all liability for viruses or anything similar in this email or any attachment. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [U2] uv pe I never thought I'd see grown people complaining that they hadn't gotten their free stuff soon enough. As in *free* *No charge* As in if you complain *TOO MUCH* maybe they'll start charging $100.00 for it.....PER YEAR..... You wanna know how much software I give away for free? Ok, maybe one little SUBR dict program using an index to retrieve data from a file with a different id, but that was it! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Kent Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 14:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [U2] uv pe What a joke Leroy I cant get access to Tech connect as we get our universe licenses through a master var This annoys us plus our client sites with inhouse programmers Its hard to defend IBM when they treat you like this jak ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leroy Dreyfuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:05 PM Subject: RE: [U2] uv pe > They are coming. We haven't broken any promises. The quarter is only half > over. > > I would have thought a fair number of you folks would have downloaded > earlier versions by now as they were on the U2TechConnect Website for a > couple of years. We know you all want the latest and greatest features we > have to experiment with, and you'll have them with just a little patience. > Because they are free evaluation copies, we are required to package them a > bit differently, and the U2 group was not the only group involved in the > process. We, too, had to wait. > > They are nearly ready to be placed on the Web again, and we do regret the > time it has taken to get this far. We will be sure to announce their > arrival as soon as they are ready. > > Thanks again for waiting. > > > Regards, > > LeRoy F. Dreyfuss > Product Manager > IBM UniVerse and UniData (U2) Extended Relational Databases > IBM Information Management Software > Tel: 303-672-1254 Fax: 303-294-4832 > Mobile: 720-341-4317 Tie-line: 770-1254 > External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2 > > > > "Marc Harbeson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > .com> To > Sent by: <[email protected]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[email protected]> > stserver.u2ug.org cc > > Subject > 02/15/2005 09:28 RE: [U2] uv pe > PM > > > Please respond to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > er.u2ug.org > > > > > > > :-) > > I was so mad..... I had just sent the email to IBM asking them where PE > was just a few days ago.... and got put off again... till march. > > This crap is beyond silly... I can download all kinds of PE versions of > Oracle.... <poke poke poke> > > Have I lit a big enough fire yet? Where's the gas!?!? > > LOL MOVE IT IBM!!!!!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Bruce Nichol > Sent: Tue 2/15/2005 9:32 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Subject: RE: [U2] uv pe > > > > Goo'day, > > HeHe..... > At 20:24 15/02/05 -0500, you wrote: > > ><soapbox> > > > >IBM's inability to deliver development tools ON TIME makes > myself wander > > Obviously a typo, but I can't help myself.....(sorry!) > > We "wandered" too.....to a different MV....... > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: > 14/02/05 > > Regards, > > Bruce Nichol > Talon Computer Services > ALBURY NSW 2640 > Australia > > http://www.taloncs.com.au > > Tel: +61 (0)411149636 > Fax: +61 (0)260232119 > > If it ain't broke, fix it till it is! > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: > 14/02/05 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.306 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: > 14/02/05 > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > graycol.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > pic20894.gif] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of > ecblank.gif] > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
