(Sorry for top-posting, original quotes at bottom) George, on the posting to which you refer, I DID put "[ad]" on the back-end of the subject. If you prefer me to both prefix AND suffix such posts I'll do so but do we really need to tell people twice?
I find us headbutting on this topic a lot George. My quote which you included in your post also included this: "We don't like it because we sell it, we sell it because we like it, and when my clients and colleagues finally take a look at it they almost inevitably adopt it." My business is focused on providing solutions. I'm a Pick "consultant" just like lots of other people here, except my business model is not to be a one man shop but a much larger international provider of many types of solutions. So we make agreements to sell the tools that we use, and now also to selling applications that our clients produce. I'm putting my money where my mouth is, eating my own dogfood, so to speak. When I find something I like I don't just talk about it, I'll sell and support it. We're starting to do this with other products that have nothing to do with MV, but the bottom line is that the products MUST be quality solutions and they (and the companies that provide them) must earn their keep in our line-up. We've dropped products that didn't live up to this. I've been doing this "forum thing" for about 15 years in this market - before I sell something it's considered helpful advice, but somehow when I do adopt something to sell it, it's then perceived as opportunistic advertising. It hardly seems reasonable given my model for me to talk up some solution and NOT include it in our catalog. Please don't hold this process against me and dismiss anything I say as a sales campaign. I'm just a Pick guy getting and giving information like anyone else here. I see people in this forum expressing pain all the time at various options they've tried, using cryptic syntax, getting bogged down by technical details. I've been through that and I'm trying to show people the solutions I've found that eliminate these pains. I've seen this for years and recognizing the opportunitity I've made a business out of solving the common problems that people present in these forums. I will certainly put "[ad]" on posts like this but I'm concerned that in your mind and perhaps in others that this brands my posts as pure and insincere solicitation. My comments are truly intended to convey what I believe to be a solution to the problem presented - you'll note that all of my postings directly offer on-topic solutions, never a gratituous mention of any unrelated product. I think the fundamental difference in such postings is that I stand to make a profit if someone buys the solution from me. Yeah, that's the problem I'm trying to solve for myself: when I gave the same free advice for years and got lots of big "thank you"s but was still struggling to pay my bills. Of course I want to pay my bills, grow my company, and continue to provide solutions as I always have. For this I make no apology. I will stamp my comments as "[ad]"s but please remember my stated motivations rather than assuming something more nefarious. And FWIW, I still provide a lot of free advice via email as many people here might attest - anyone is welcome to check with me for a free solution, if I already have it, of course I will offer it, but I won't withhold other solutions just because I don't sell them. Oh and BTW, Chuck - I'd like to make all sorts of comments about cyber-spanking but I'm afraid they will all get us in trouble or at least raise some eyebrows, so let's just say your official inquiry has been noted. Best to all, Tony Gravagno Nebula Research and Development TG@ remove.this.pleaseNebula-RnD.com George R Smith wrote: > Charles, > > I think your reply demonstrates my point. Here I will help you look > back, didn't have to look far, most of his posts are in the same > format. > > george r smith > > Post from Tony G on 08/29 >> I've been doing communications work with MV for many years I believe >> mv.NET is the best software in its class. [snip] >> From Chuck: >> George, >> I'll have to look back. i do try my best to be even handed, but I >> am certainly not perfect. How about it Tony? Have I missed >> chances to cyber-spank you? >> - Chuck >> George R Smith wrote: >>> Charles, >>> >>> I have no connection to David BUT why don't you require Tony G to >>> have an AD /AD around most if not all his posts - all they are just >>> solitations for business. ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
