Amen! 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Joslyn
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [U2] To Ad or Not to Ad

Chuck and Tony and all,
When I was a little girl I didn't wake up in my pink and white Barbie
bedroom and think "Gosh, I hope someday every one thinks of me as the
"change control and software quality geek ... <sigh>."  It wasn't
planned,
but it happened.  So there I am. 

Because I am "that person", people come to me with questions about
problems
and even about other solutions.  I'm very forthcoming about the options.
I
give many academic presentations to share what I have learned about
software
quality / control / audit that have nothing specific to do with my
product.
But everyone knows that I have that product and everyone knows THAT'S
why I
know this stuff. 

So - the key thing that struck a chord with me in Tony's remark is this
idea
that we must be careful lest we APPEAR to be interested in selling our
products or services.  Of course we're interested in selling our
products!
It's what we do! As Chuck B. says, it's important for you to know who I
am.
I'm sure I speak for Tony and others as well when I tell you that I am
not
so desperate for gigs that I have to try to TRICK people into them!  Nor
would I insult the very helpful and kind community of this forum by such
underhanded tactics!

So I think what hurts us "got something to sell" folks on the list about
the
[AD] fray is that it seems to imply that we are trying to trick or sneak
our
product onto someone's unsuspecting computer or budget.  We don't want
this
list to be flooded with ads.  We don't want to offend any users by
appearing
to pull one over on 'em. But I think that information that we know
BECAUSE
of what we do is a valid contribution and even if it mentions our
product,
our services, our experiences, is not really an AD -- is it?

I don't always put the [AD] banner on my posts.  I didn't put it on this
one
- although I do mention that I have a product and I even vaguely mention
what it does.  Should I have put [AD] on this post?  I think our
signature
is the important thing in all of this.  I'll make a point to include my
full
signature on all posts, that way there's disclosure even when it's not
marked [AD].  

Susan Joslyn
"Change control and software quality geek (er, guru)"
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.  
PRC(r) Real software configuration management for u2
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