Yes I do use a different separator page for my 4250 than my 4200 for
some reason it didn't matter if I used pcl5 or 6 it wanted slightly
different code. This is the 3rd time in my time using hp's I have had
have a different separator page. Thanks for the feedback. And just FYI
not a lick of issues with this printer

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Bob Utech
Subject: RE: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from Universe
Basic program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not working

Anthony, Bob

A participant on the QM list serv recently had this to say regarding a 
problem someone else was having printing to an HP 2100 series PCL 6
printer:

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I don't know if PCL6 is supported or not but I do know that HP make a
HUGE 
change going to PCL6 and it is NOT backwards compatible and does not
support 
the old Escape sequences that drove prior versions of PCL.  We have had
lots 
of problems with old programs that pushed PCL Escape sequences out to 
printers.
----end QM list msg----

Is it possible that the HP 4250 printer that Bob Utech
is using is a PCL 6 printer and that he's sending it PCL 5 commands and 
that's why they're not working?

Dave

Dave Taylor
Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
Authorized IBM Business Partner
49 Aspen Way
Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
(O) 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275)
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(C) 310-561-5200
www.sysmarkinfo.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Caufield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:30 PM
Subject:  RE: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from Universe
Basic 
program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not working


> FYI I just looked at my 4250 and I am using HP Drivers (PCL 6) I am
> using winprint Raw for my print processor. I use separator pages to
> control the print type so I use the 3 different printer definitions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:04 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from Universe
> Basic program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not
working
>
> Well, that's good news.
>
> I've never installed an HP 2420tn or an HP4250dtn so I can't speak
about
>
> that particular driver, but my experience with other HP printers has
> been
> different.
>
> I guess Bob's problem lies somewhere else than with the HP driver.
>
> Thanks for clarifying this issue,
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Taylor
> Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
> Authorized IBM Business Partner
> 49 Aspen Way
> Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
> (O) 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275)
> (F) 310-377-3550
> (C) 310-561-5200
> www.sysmarkinfo.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from Universe
> Basic
> program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not working
>
>
>> Windows.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:16 AM
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from Universe
>>>Basic
>>>program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not working
>>>
>>>Bill,
>>>
>>>Was that on Windows or on .nix?
>>>
>>>I have just installed  SpoolerPlus on UV 10.2 on RHEL 5.1 and
> discovered
>>>that the "text-only" driver in RHEL passes *only* text, nothing else,
>>>which
>>>is just the opposite of the "text-only" driver in Windows - go
figure!
>>>
>>>I also tried the raw driver in RHEL and lost all control of data
>>>formatting.
>>>
>>>The only driver that has worked so far in RHEL is the HP driver for
an
> HP
>>>LaserJet 6P printer, but I haven't yet tried to pass PCL commands to
> the
>>>printer thru the HP driver - stay tuned!
>>>
>>>Thanks for the information.
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>Dave Taylor
>>>Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
>>>Authorized IBM Business Partner
>>>49 Aspen Way
>>>Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
>>>(O) 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275)
>>>(F) 310-377-3550
>>>(C) 310-561-5200
>>>www.sysmarkinfo.com
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Bill Haskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:15 AM
>>>Subject: RE: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from Universe
>>>Basic
>>>program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not working
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dave:
>>>>
>>>> I don't think I had to do this in UD when setting up a network
> printer.
>>>> I
>>>> simply
>>>> installed the printer (HP2420tn) onto the UD machine; the HP driver
> was
>>>> installed for
>>>> this printer.  I use the SETPTR command (creating a _HOLD_ entry
> first)
>>>> to
>>>> send PCL5
>>>> codes, the print job, and finally the PCL end-job codes and
> everything
>>>> gets through
>>>> just fine.
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
>>>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Taylor
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:34 AM
>>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>>Subject: Re: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from
> Universe
>>>>>Basic
>>>>>program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not working
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>>1.    Is this the only PCL command that is not being recognized or
> are
>>>>>all
>>>>>others also not being recognized?
>>>>>
>>>>>If all PCL commands (eg. CPI, CPL, LPI, LPP, Orientation, etc.) are
>>>>>being
>>>>>ignored, check the Windows printer driver installed with this
> printer.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you are using the HP driver, none of your PCL commands will be
> passed
>>>>>thru to the printer - they will all fail.
>>>>>
>>>>>If so, you need to create an additional Windows logical printer
> attached
>>>>>to
>>>>>the same port as  your current HP4250 and install the Generic
> Text-only
>>>>>driver from the Generic manufacturer's list of drivers in Windows
> and
>>>>>assign
>>>>>a different name to the printer (eg. HP4250TEXT).
>>>>>
>>>>>2.    If this is the only PCL command that is being ignored while
> others
>>>>>are
>>>>>being recognized, check the sequence of PCL commands in the string
> of
>>>>>PCL
>>>>>commands that are being sent to the printer.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you send a PCL command to specify a tray and then follow it with
> a
>>>>>PCL
>>>>>command to specify a particular paper type and that paper type is
> not in
>>>>>the
>>>>>same tray as the tray previously specified, the last command
> received by
>>>>>the
>>>>>printer will be the command that it uses - eg tray 3, paper type
> Plain
>>>>>will
>>>>>leave your printer at tray 2 according to your settings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Please contact me directly if this doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>>Rgds,
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Taylor
>>>>>Sysmark Information Systems, Inc.
>>>>>Authorized IBM Business Partner
>>>>>49 Aspen Way
>>>>>Rolling Hills Estates, CA 90274
>>>>>(O) 800-SYSMARK (800-797-6275)
>>>>>(F) 310-377-3550
>>>>>(C) 310-561-5200
>>>>>www.sysmarkinfo.com
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Bob Utech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>Cc: "Bob Utech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 7:14 AM
>>>>>Subject: [U2] HP 4250dtn printer using PCL commands from Universe
> Basic
>>>>>program with hex conversion codes ... Tray 3 selection not working
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am trying to send a report to the HP4250 printer to tray 3 using
> PCL
>>>>>> codes (hex = 1B266C3548), but is not working.
>>>>>> It always defaults to tray 2 when jobs are sent from host
Universe
> no
>>>>>> matter what PCL tray code I use. Any Microsoft Office print jobs
> work
>>>>>> fine and select the correct trays.
>>>>>> All 3 trays are setup : Default paper size = Letter   Tray
> behavior =
>>>>>> Use requested tray always
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                                                      tray1: paper
> size
>>>>>> = Envelope
>>>>>>                                                             paper
> type
>>>>>> = Preprinted
>>>>>>                                                      tray2: paper
> size
>>>>>> = Letter
>>>>>>                                                             paper
> type
>>>>>> = Plain
>>>>>>                                                      tray3: paper
> size
>>>>>> = Letter
>>>>>>                                                             paper
> type
>>>>>> = Bond
>>>>>> I am on Universe 10.1.23 with Windows Server 2003
>>>>>> I have several cases with HP Support concerning this - but they
>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>> been very helpful - just point me to links to PCL commands (which
> I
>>>>>> already have).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am hoping someone in the U2UG has experience doing this ... Any
> help
>>>>>> would be appreciated.
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Utech, Senior I.T. Coordinator
>>>>>> Information Technology Department
>>>>>> (218) 879-3321 ext. 174
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