a) oh well....

b) Oh, I've been programming since 1974, professionally since 1978, I've
only been using paper for 25 years... :)  Heck, I dream about code - talk
about visualizing....but you should see some of the M2K programs.  SO.ENTRY
is up to about 34 main subroutines many of which are 2000 to 3000 lines, 100
associated subroutines and it's been modified by 400 to 500 people.

And the darn thing not only works, but works great!

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Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:18
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [U2] ouch


a) Universe
b) whippersnapper (32 years still in black and white)
   my main concerns are the programmers that can't visualize impacts on
the whole 'code'.   and are constantly recompiling after correcting 5-10
lines of code.   Of course, back in the Early Dawn of Pick, compiling
500 lines of code would take 20-30 minutes plus drag down the other 16
programmers on the system.  There was a least one programmer
're-educated' for abusing the system.  Of course, some of the 5,000 line
programs that I've seen recently were because somebody didn't think.
Roger

Allen E. Elwood wrote:
> You didn't say unidata or universe...
>
> This guy has a unidata decompiler, not sure how fast they are
>
> http://www.infocus50.com/products/xtrico.html
>
> btw, at 52 I haven't been using paper for 25 years....
>
> :-)
>
> hth,
>
> Allen E. Elwood
> www.tortillafc.com
> Quality Code Since 1978
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