Just curious. I've been with OE systems since that long but I guess my client's have not gotten that deep.
Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen E. Elwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: RE: [U2] ouch > Hi Mark, > > M2K = Manage-2000 > > SO.ENTRY has been constantly modified due to customer demands since 1978 and > has more options than can be dreamt of. As you can imagine, over the period > of the last 30 years there have been literally hundreds of people come in, > program a new option and leave their mark on this enormous program. > > The m2k system actually now has 680+ MENUS ! > > Many of the subroutines are that long. What's going on? Creeping > Feature-itis ! The subroutines are arranged by functionality and some of > those functions are just huge, like multiple ship-to customers and multiple > scheduled shipments per line item. > > Allen > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MAJ Programming > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 08:53 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [U2] ouch > > > Regarding these numbers being thrown around, aka Mine is Bigger: > > I can see a Sales Order entry program growing to 34 subs. I wonder what's > going on in a 2000 to 3000 line sub though. > > I can see 100 other subs. > > But does your 400 to 500 people mean the users offering their slight input, > the managers offering their major input or do you mean 400 to 500 > programmers? > > Considering how many of us there actually are (or could be), I might have > been one of them although I don't recall. > > Also, What's a M2K program? > > Just curious. > Mark Johnson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allen E. Elwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:26 AM > Subject: RE: [U2] ouch > > > > a) oh well.... > > > > b) Oh, I've been programming since 1974, professionally since 1978, I've > > only been using paper for 25 years... :) Heck, I dream about code - talk > > about visualizing....but you should see some of the M2K programs. > SO.ENTRY > > is up to about 34 main subroutines many of which are 2000 to 3000 lines, > 100 > > associated subroutines and it's been modified by 400 to 500 people. > > > > And the darn thing not only works, but works great! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Glenfield > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:18 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [U2] ouch > > > > > > a) Universe > > b) whippersnapper (32 years still in black and white) > > my main concerns are the programmers that can't visualize impacts on > > the whole 'code'. and are constantly recompiling after correcting 5-10 > > lines of code. Of course, back in the Early Dawn of Pick, compiling > > 500 lines of code would take 20-30 minutes plus drag down the other 16 > > programmers on the system. There was a least one programmer > > 're-educated' for abusing the system. Of course, some of the 5,000 line > > programs that I've seen recently were because somebody didn't think. > > Roger > > > > Allen E. Elwood wrote: > > > You didn't say unidata or universe... > > > > > > This guy has a unidata decompiler, not sure how fast they are > > > > > > http://www.infocus50.com/products/xtrico.html > > > > > > btw, at 52 I haven't been using paper for 25 years.... > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > hth, > > > > > > Allen E. Elwood > > > www.tortillafc.com > > > Quality Code Since 1978 > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > ------- > > u2-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
