Hi Mark, M2K = Manage-2000
SO.ENTRY has been constantly modified due to customer demands since 1978 and has more options than can be dreamt of. As you can imagine, over the period of the last 30 years there have been literally hundreds of people come in, program a new option and leave their mark on this enormous program. The m2k system actually now has 680+ MENUS ! Many of the subroutines are that long. What's going on? Creeping Feature-itis ! The subroutines are arranged by functionality and some of those functions are just huge, like multiple ship-to customers and multiple scheduled shipments per line item. Allen -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of MAJ Programming Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 08:53 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [U2] ouch Regarding these numbers being thrown around, aka Mine is Bigger: I can see a Sales Order entry program growing to 34 subs. I wonder what's going on in a 2000 to 3000 line sub though. I can see 100 other subs. But does your 400 to 500 people mean the users offering their slight input, the managers offering their major input or do you mean 400 to 500 programmers? Considering how many of us there actually are (or could be), I might have been one of them although I don't recall. Also, What's a M2K program? Just curious. Mark Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen E. Elwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: RE: [U2] ouch > a) oh well.... > > b) Oh, I've been programming since 1974, professionally since 1978, I've > only been using paper for 25 years... :) Heck, I dream about code - talk > about visualizing....but you should see some of the M2K programs. SO.ENTRY > is up to about 34 main subroutines many of which are 2000 to 3000 lines, 100 > associated subroutines and it's been modified by 400 to 500 people. > > And the darn thing not only works, but works great! > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger Glenfield > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:18 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [U2] ouch > > > a) Universe > b) whippersnapper (32 years still in black and white) > my main concerns are the programmers that can't visualize impacts on > the whole 'code'. and are constantly recompiling after correcting 5-10 > lines of code. Of course, back in the Early Dawn of Pick, compiling > 500 lines of code would take 20-30 minutes plus drag down the other 16 > programmers on the system. There was a least one programmer > 're-educated' for abusing the system. Of course, some of the 5,000 line > programs that I've seen recently were because somebody didn't think. > Roger > > Allen E. Elwood wrote: > > You didn't say unidata or universe... > > > > This guy has a unidata decompiler, not sure how fast they are > > > > http://www.infocus50.com/products/xtrico.html > > > > btw, at 52 I haven't been using paper for 25 years.... > > > > :-) > > > > hth, > > > > Allen E. Elwood > > www.tortillafc.com > > Quality Code Since 1978 > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > ------- > u2-users mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ------- u2-users mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
