Maybe they will hire apple's marketing dept. and in a release or two
down the line we'll have customers standing in line to buy U2?

They did it with iPhone so I'm sure they can do it with U2

Dougc


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Frank
Eperjesi
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:53 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] Problem with Multi-value market in general

Not to knock Rocket (Especially now that I guess I am be a dealer of
there).  Also I have no history with them

A lot of what all you say as to U2 not evolving enough is true, but part
of the reason for that and problems in the D3, U2 or mult-value world in
general is that almost all the current multi-value providers are doing
one or more of these things .:

1) Either living off the bones of their installed base and/or swooping
in to feed off of whoever is still running D3 and its flavors, but doing
nothing to attract new users.  IBM falls into the 2nd category.

2) Jbase (& I think Cache) are successful application software companies
that basically created their own version of Multi-value to migrate to
save their investment.  I have not looked a Jbase in a while, but Cache
has some nice new features.


My company (BAI) is one of the dwindling software providers still
bringing in "fresh meat" to the table.

Up to now just saying U2 was part of IBM made a HUGE difference.  The
original Unidata name was not a good as saying we were an IBM database
but their name and support material were very good.

As good a Rocket may be, not sure saying we are running on a data base
from a company called "rocketsoftware" will be any help in selling to
our prospect base.  

Unlike IBM we will have to sell RocketSoftware viability as well as our
applications.

Unless Rocket comes up with a super marketing effort, things just got a
lot harder for us.



 





Frank E. Eperjesi
Vice President
Business Automation, Inc.
(714) 998-6600 phone (714) 998-6170 Fax
 
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Mecki Foerthmann wrote:
> George,
> I think Dawn's emphasis was on survive, and that doesn't necessarily 
> mean thrive.
> To my ears the Rocket business plan for "legacy" products sounds more 
> like running a rest home for no longer wanted technology
> They keep it alive as long as there is a profit to be made from 
> licence and support fees, and when that runs out they let it pass
away..
> The U2 products will "survive" OK, but all we're most likely going to 
> get in future are maybe some patches but no new development.
>
> Nobody buys a business to kill it? Do hedgefonds managers know that
too?
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