No offence taken, I disagree but that is okay....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 9:15 p.m.
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?
> 
> I am not being rude,  but the whole concept of being data storage
agnostic
> and building the application layers above that is very 1990's
textbook. What
> has been very apparent in the last ten years is that for many  many
> applications the data storage technology is an integral part of the
offering.
> (not to say we do not build business logic and data access layers) I
have
> worked at places that offer their solution on mysql, mssql, oracle,
but
> eventually they had to concentrate on one - it may well work on all,
but it
> certainly was not efficient. They may all have the same concepts in
terms of
> sql but they work in very different ways and in order to produce an
> architecture that is highly innovative and efficient you have to
include the
> capabilities of the data storage into major consideration. I think if
you are an
> end user site then the ability to choose a new DB store based on
> price/performance and irrelevant to the application is still a concern
but for
> isv's developing innovative and efficient solutions we have very much
moved
> on from that viewpoint.
> 
> 
> 
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of phil walker
> Sent: 01 February 2011 23:19
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?
> 
> 
> 
> Storage is something completely different. Think of business objects
rather
> than tables/rows/columns or file/record/fm/vm/sm/tm or even XML.....
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of George Gallen
> > Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2011 10:31 a.m.
> > To: U2 Users List
> > Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?
> >
> > While that all makes sense, the one difference here between U2 and
the
> > others (Oracle, MySQL, MSSQL) is the usage of multi-value data
> storage.
> >
> > Even if U2 had the best GUI interface, if you are utilizing the MV
> storage, you
> > CAN'T Swap it out, without even more redevelopment.
> >
> > If your going to redevelop to not use the multi-value, then why
bother
> with
> > U2 at all, green screen or not.
> >
> > Guess it's a matter of how much you want to redevelop.....
> >
> > George
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users-
> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of phil walker
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:12 PM
> > > To: U2 Users List
> > > Subject: Re: [U2] What do you do with CallHTTP?
> > >
> > >
> > > If you still have a green screen and want to put a GUI/Web
interface
> > > on it, then do the redevelopment, but look to see if you can layer
> > > your application architecture so that the database can be swapped
> out
> > > the database if you need to for whatever reason. The value is in
> your
> > > application not the database.
> > >
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