Compusheet?  I remember working with that!
-Dianne

On 2/7/2012 6:50 AM, Charlie Noah wrote:
Hi Bob,

I don't suppose CrowFlite can be obtained these days, can it? It looks like Phil has retired. If it were available, would it work with the newer versions of Excel? What about Open Office?

In the 80s I worked for a university in Florida, where we used a Pick-based spreadsheet modeled after Lotus 123. I built a series of spreadsheets which reached down into every aspect of the university's database, giving upper management an up to the minute view of the school's financial picture. I think it ended up being over 600 spreadsheets, but hey, fund accounting is complicated and we did still have the 32K limit.

Fond memories. ;^)

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On 02-06-2012 10:57 PM, Bob Rasmussen wrote:
Makes one long for CrowFlite, doesn't it?

For those that don't remember, CrowFlite was an add-in to Excel that
allowed it, at a per-cell level, to "reach back" into a Pick database and
grab individual pieces of data. In other words, it was a "pull" solution
as well as a "push".

I'm cc'ing its creator, Phil Gerber, so he can reminisce about the past
while reveling in the sights among the mountains of Oregon :-)

On Mon, 6 Feb 2012, Tony Gravagno wrote:

Not responding to any particular quote here, just the CSV topic
in general.

Respected colleagues, CSV is not Excel. If you have an end-user
that asks for Excel and you give them a CSV you're just
perpetuating the myth that Pick is a dinosaur. They will gladly
spend tens of thousands of dollars to replace your application
with something that creates real Excel (and PDF) despite the fact
that such things can be attained at low cost or no cost right
now. Trust me, I've seen it happen.

This dove-tails with the reasons why people get 20 people to
support Oracle when they can have 3 working on Pick.  The reason
is that the Oracle people say "yes", and give them pretty
reports, when their Pick guys say "no", and give them plain text
in columns and rows and call it "Excel".

Please don't let that happen to you.  Be sure you are properly
responding to end-user requests. Just ask them what they do with
the documents after you generate them. If they really just want
raw data, OK. But if they go on to tell you how many days it
takes to reformat the data, assemble the multiple CSVs into a
single workbook, etc, then you have found a great deal of room
for improvement. Yeah, I've been there too.

Off the soapbox, thanks.
T

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