It's still easier from DOS :)
-----Original Message----- From: Phil Walker <[email protected]> To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Feb 17, 2012 12:11 pm Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox--digression about why anyone would want telnet-based tools Actually, if you are on a newer version of windows the explorer has a search bar here you can filter on anything including extension. From there do your eletions in the current directory only.... > -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:u2-users- [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Clark Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2012 7:55 a.m. To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox--digression about why anyone would want telnet-based tools actually your example is pretty easy on current windows versions. Type *.txt into the windows explorer search box, then select and delete. On the upside, when you delete the files, you know for sure what directory you are in because it's in the title bar. On the down side, your search retrieved not just the files in this directory, but in all the sub directories, which could e a plus if that's what you want, but is probably a downside because you still need to narrow the select. I used to use pick on a Stratus computer. The main OS was Stratus' VOS (based on multics, tasted a little like VMS with unix finish). All reen-screen but the VOS commands were very verbose. But for every single command you could press a function key which popped up a form which contained every option/flag/default. They had put a lot of effort into making the VOS command line easy. That could probably be done for a pick command line as well (or for windows). I used to work with Motorola Codex communication equipment (multiplexed hundreds of serial connections over a t1 line so users in remote offices could green-screen into the application. The Codex itself had a serial port that you connected a terminal to to issue management commands (they added telnet later). The command set was pretty simple, but they also provided a gui. there was a pc running Windows 1 with a serial connection. The windows app gave you menus and forms, and then types commands to the control port and captured and screen-scraped (just a little) the output. The thing is, when they trained out people to use the system, they never mentioned that you could just use a terminal. The program was godawful and crashed all the time. It was completely in the way of issuing simple commands. My point is that if you know the commands then just typing them is easy, and you probably don't want a gui in the way. If you don't know them, a user interface (either gui or text) can make it easier--or just be a crutch. As for why telnet is still around--don't beat up on telnet. it's just a rotocol. If you wanted to, you could write iPad apps that used telnet as a transport. you could put a beautiful gui on the front of an app running on an old pick box that can only do telnet. The real question is why is green-screen still around, and that has been argued endlessly. It's still here and a lot of people like it. On Feb 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Wjhonson wrote: > > "Why is DOS still on Windows? Because there are some things you just > can't do easily with windows," > > Just the other day I did a > del *.txt > > pretty trivial to do at the DOS prompt. Rather more cumbersome to do > in a Window click click click point, select click click select point lick..... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Gallen <[email protected]> > To: U2 Users List <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Feb 17, 2012 6:20 am > Subject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox > > > Why? Because it has almost no overhead, and has the most flexibility. > Can the 3 year old (assuming they understood the process) select items > from one ile based on selection Then pull items from another file > using a related ID and save that list. > Perform that again on two other files and save that list. > Merge those two, and then push that list into an application that > emails a file The above would take 2-3 min to do with telnet. > IT would take significantly longer to do with a GUI front end. > telnet is excellent for administration and development. Once you know > what you ant, then you an use the GUI to setup a nice interface for > those that want to point and lick. > Why is DOS still on Windows? Because there are some things you just > can't do asily with windows, r without writing/buying an application. > George > -----Original Message----- > rom: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > n Behalf Of Doug Averch > ent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:17 PM > o: U2 Users List > ubject: Re: [U2] mvToolbox > > hy are we using telnet in > 2 as our main form of communication? > In today's world a 3 year old can use an iPad to access a Universe or > nidata database application. We sell an Alpaca herd management that > runs n the iPad and our granddaughter used the application "Who's your daddy?" > o find out who the alpaca's daddy is. 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