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John

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Horacio Pellegrino
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 3:16 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL

I remember a company that went bankrupt because they spent so much in SAP ( or 
was it Oracle? ) It was in the news.

Anybody?

HP

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Dawn Wolthuis <dw...@tincat-group.com>wrote:

> I have only seen SAP implementations from a bit of a distance and 
> through reading stories, but in every case, my understanding was that 
> those in charge of the project were gone before SAP went live. I have 
> seen systems analysts and programmers survive the project, with plenty 
> of stories once they do. It sounds like a really brutal ERP 
> installation. I have not kept current on this front enough to know 
> that people were still selecting it, although a whole lot of people 
> are still maintaining it.
>
> Best wishes, Scott, and thanks for taking the time to write up your 
> notes regarding some of those in the industry who have helped you.
> Cheers!  --dawn
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Holt, Jake <jh...@samsill.com> wrote:
> > I thought no one actually ever finished implementing SAP?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of 
> iggch...@comcast.net
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:31 PM
> > To: U2 Users List
> > Subject: Re: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't worry, we're not going to implement anything that's going to 
> > do
> damage.  Well, unless you call the outrageous cost a damage :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts on the CONCURRENT option?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> > From: "Wjhonson" <wjhon...@aol.com>
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:14:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL
> >
> >
> > Well you used to be.  After SAP sucks ten years out of the life of 
> > your
> company, we'll see
> >
> >
> >
> > << I am being moved to our corporate office to join a eam of 10 who 
> > will
> be learning, configuring, and customizing SAP to meet the eeds of the 
> best wine and spirits distribution company  in the world.  Ok, I'm
> >  little partial...  >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: iggchamp <iggch...@comcast.net>
> > To: U2 Users List <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org>
> > Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 11:11 am
> > Subject: [U2] File Sizing using concurrent option AND FAREWELL
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > uv 10.2.7 / hpux 11.11
> >
> > First things first (skip this section if you don't care for goodbyes)...
> >
> >
> > I wanted to say thanks to all of the contributors to this list.  I 
> > have
> learned
> >  tremendous amount from all of you.  The passion that many of you 
> > have
> for your ork is really inspiring.  I am being moved to our corporate 
> office to join a eam of 10 who will be learning, configuring, and 
> customizing SAP to meet the eeds of the best wine and spirits 
> distribution company  in the world.  Ok, I'm
> >  little partial...   All of you deserve a great deal of credit for my
> pportunity as you have all contributed to the things that I've been 
> able to ccomplish with my current system.  Without the great system 
> that we here in llinois have developed, I'm sure that noone would 
> trust in my abilities to eliver in a different environment.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > blockquote>
> >
> >  special thanks to a couple of people I have been blessed to work
> directly ith.  I cannot recommend their services enough!
> > /blockquote>
> >
> >
> > blockquote>
> >
> >
> > ony Gravagno ( http://www.nebula-rnd.com/ ):  When each division of 
> > SWS
> was
> > sked to provide a web service that would interface our sales force
> automation
> > nits to our business systems, I was terrified.  I had never had the
> opportunity
> > o work with web technology and, based on a heavy workload, did not 
> > have
> the
> > ime to dive in at that time.  I did take the web developer that 
> > Universe ffered for a spin.  Pretty cool tool.  While I was able to 
> > develop a web ervice that could work had I set the requirements 
> > myself, I could not
> get it to
> > eet the requirements that corporate was developed.  I even worked 
> > with
> one of
> > he IBM engineers and he could not get it done.  Keep in mind that I 
> > have
> always
> > elieved in my abilities to provide solid solutions using the tools 
> > that
> we have
> > n the multivalue world.  It killed me to have to bring in a resource
> from the
> > utside.  I swallowed my pride and turned to Tony.  I was amazed at 
> > the ncredible service that he provided.  He developed a service for 
> > me that
> has
> > een rock solid.  I am still amazed that I have never had to revisit 
> > it
> after
> > ears of pounding by our sales force.  This is plug, play, and forget
> about it
> > t its best!  Not only that but our web service which provides 
> > incredibly owerful and complicated pricing blows the web service 
> > developed on our orporate as400 system out of the water from a performance 
> > standpoint.
>  Thanks
> > ony, you've made me look a lot better than I really am :) 
> > /blockquote>
> >
> >
> >
> > eff Fitzerald ( http://www.fitzlong.com/ ):  Your write-ups on file
> performance
> > ave really helped me to ensure that our system is always operating 
> > at a
> high
> > evel.  I wish I could get everyone around here to read it.  I was 
> > also ortunate enough to have been allowed to use your file 
> > maintenance
> product -
> > AST.  I can't tell you how much time that this saved me.  When I 
> > first
> arrived
> > t this company, all the files were dynamic.   I made the mistake of
> converting
> > hem all to static because I believed the performance was much 
> > better.  I
> was
> > ight and the system was screaming.  The reason I use "mistake" is 
> > that it brought me into a whole new world of ensuring the thousands 
> > of files
> used by
> > he application continued to perform by spending all my weekends sizing.
>  Yuck!
> > y allowing me to break away from managing the monster that I had 
> > created
> by
> > sing your product, I had my weekends free again.  Yay!  Not only 
> > that,
> your
> > roduct was doing a much better job than I ever did.  Unfortunately,
> budgets
> > ere cut and  I could no longer continue to use it.   Thanks Jeff, you
> helped me
> > o spend my time moving the company forward by developing great tools
> rather
> > han maintaining files.
> > /blockquote>
> >
> >
> > ILE SIZING question:
> >
> > As mentioned, I'm moving on.  Before leaving I'm trying my best to 
> > ease
> the
> > urden on my friends  here in Illinois by automating many of the 
> > things
> that I
> > ever got around to doing for myself .  That being said, I put 
> > together a outine that will analyze our files and resize as 
> > necessary.  It's pretty
> slick
> > ut not near the software offered by fitzlong.com - refer to previous
> section.
> >
> > I would like to set it up to execute from cron so that noone has to
> babysit.
> > eing the scaredy cat that I am, I've always phantomed off the 
> > process and onitored over the weekend to ensure that noone is 
> > accessing the files in uestion.  I put the CONCURRENT option in 
> > there as a safeguard but never
> really
> > rusted it enough to turn the program loose without policing.
> >
> > My questions regarding CONCURRENT  are these:
> >     1.   Is the option trustworthy enough to use on a live system while
> users
> > re possibly accessing the files?
> >    2. Are there any sort of performance issues?  In other words, 
> > would a
> file
> > hat takes 2 hours to size take 8 hours to size while users are
> accessing?  The
> > outine keeps a history of various statistics including how much time 
> > it
> took to
> > o its business.
> >    3. Does it slow the application that is accessing the file?
> >    4. Any other considerations?
> >
> >
> > hanks in advance for your response  and for all of the tremendous 
> > help
> that
> > ou've all been over the years.
> >
> > Scott Thompson
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> --
> Dawn M. Wolthuis
>
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