WJ:
http://www.intersystems.com/press/2007/sc.html
http://www.casoftware.co.uk/OSMOSiS.html


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Gravagno 
> I'm also aware of another product based in the UK that has excellent
> tools for migrating From SB, but I don't like where they migrate To.

> From: Colin Alfke  
> What about Osmosis?

(Please forgive what's as much a dump of information as introspection.
I hope it's of use to someone.)

That's the one. I won't disparage a fine product like this. Osmosis is
good software, does a lot of things, and its SB conversion is the best
I've seen. But Osmosis hasn't caught the attention of this industry. I
won't recommend replacing a dead-end offering with another offering
that doesn't have an established history and no firm future. It's a
good technical solution but as yet I don't think it's a good business
decision for a variety of sites. Perhaps in the future.

About its future: InterSystems now has a partnership with SC Systems
who created Osmosis. I'd be real concerned that this whole exact
scenario could play out again at some point with InterSystems only
supporting Osmosis over Caché. What a tragedy that would be for some
shop that just wants to sell widgets.

Now, I said "I don't like where they migrate To". That's wrong. Like
SB, Osmosis supports both character UI and thick-client. It's not that
I don't like it. It's that I haven't had a single department manager
tell me they want a thick client GUI in almost a decade. Anyone who is
looking to me for GUI these days wants a browser. That's what I based
that statement on. However, the success of SB and ATGUI fly in the
face of that. People probably just ask me about browser UIs because
that's what I tend to talk about in public. These orphans who would
rather face a hard drive crash than upgrade are probably not that
picky. They probably could do well with a thick-client GUI, and that
means Osmosis. 

Given the politics of the product I'd still have a hard time
recommending it at this time, but if a site is willing to get back on
support and spend the money to bring their app into this century, then
Osmosis might be the right, perhaps only solution for them.

As a side note, with DesignBais resembling SB as it does (foundations
in SB actually), at one point I tried to pull together the teams from
DesignBais and Osmosis, to combine the best of what these products
have to offer - excellent SB conversion into a well-supported
browser-based product. Neither side was interested - and years later
I'm still constantly stumbling on potential prospects for that. Oh
well.

T

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