What also doesn't help is that SB+ was rebranded as System Builder, i.e. the 
same name as the old product.

I recall using the wrapper Brian refers to convert old screens - it was only 
really a half-way house and any screen with any complexity ended up being 
re-written anyway.

"Tony Gravagno" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
news:<[email protected]>...
> >From Wjhonson
> > Of all the jobs posted over the past several years, several have
> asked
> > for SB+ experience, none have asked for any other product of that
> class.
> 
> I'll respond to that here because it dove-tails with what I have
> below. You don't see ads, in-part, because the sites still running the
> old software are largely not aware that an MV community exists that
> might respond to such an ad. Many of them don't even know what
> software they have running on their "DOS" system. Most of them that I
> run across have no consultants (I dare say "Value-Add Reseller") who
> strongly insists on upgrades. The result is that they only reach out
> to the world after a hard drive failure, hurricane, or some other
> catastrophe. More below. 
> 
> 
> > From: Brian Leach
> > So an 80% conversion is easy ..
> 
> Yeah, everyone claims to do 80%, some only really do 50%. But we all
> know it's that last 20% that occupies your time for the next year or
> three. So perhaps to further refine the query, I'm looking for tools
> that really do bring us closer to that 95-98% mark - with no marketing
> fluff to bridge the gap between there and 80%.
> 
> I don't have any immediate opportunities but I keep stumbling on these
> poor sites. And if I do, and picking up orphans isn't my business,
> then you gotta know that people who do go after that business must be
> finding more of these. Some of these sites have gone through
> developers (aka snake-oil salesmen) who claim they're going to convert
> the software but never do, and eventually the sites just migrate away
> from MV. It's a terrible story.
> 
> [uh oh, soapbox alert]
> You'd think the MV DBMS providers would take some interest in this but
> I've yet to see any of them pro-actively offer assistance to any of
> these sites, for-fee or otherwise. I know the original intent was to
> discontinue support for SB and  earlier SB+ in an effort to force
> end-users to migrate to U2. That tactic worked for some sites but the
> people who implemented that policy simply didn't have a plan-B for the
> large number of sites that didn't fall for it. They were thinking
> about starving out their DBMS competition by leveraging this tool.
> What actually happened is that end-users decided not to upgrade their
> DBMS just so they could keep using SB, and these sites migrate away
> from the model as soon as some "young nephew" comes along. So everyone
> loses with this predatory approach.
> 
> I'm not asking any company to maintain software when it's not in their
> financial interest, nor to chase small sites that are more inclined to
> drop support than to migrate to a new platform. But from a marketing
> perspective we all lose when a policy like this is only
> half-implemented. 
> 
> Regards,
> T
> 
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