Nobody is arguing that GUI editors are not useful, I'm just saying that ED/AE is
The default editor - just because it's not as robust, doesn't mean it shouldn't
Be learned. I learned the ED on Reality, and had no problem when I used AP / D3
And Prime Information and then Universe - it was almost a standard - that is why
It should be learned. All the reasons you mention really don't matter if all 
Your doing is entering some test data, or doing a quick look at a VOC entry.

Nothing more to read into it

George

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Averch
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:50 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Rgarding ED editor

I've been doing Eclipse IDE a lot longer than everybody else.  I'm not
bragging here: U2logic was the first with an editor that ran within Eclipse
IDE for Universe and Unidata in 2004.

I would have to save that I have updated many VOC items from XLr8Editor
Eclipse.  But that is not really point I have made in all of these years
trying to explain this technology.  If the U2 database environment is to
survive and grow, all of us programmers have to look like other programmers
in the world.  Very few of us should be using line by line editors for any
reason.

I firmly believe that the ED/AE should be removed from the database not
because the tools are not useful, but because it detracts from what can be
accomplished within the U2 environment.  When I'm at a client, or doing a
web demo, I have Eclipse running with code showing to showcase that U2 is
not a legacy technology.

When I'm coding and somebody who does not know U2 they can see these to
name few things:

   1. the code compiling on the spot
   2. built-in version control
   3. copy and paste capability
   4. dictionary editing in a grid
   5. an outline with all the variables and their respective line numbers
   6. code completion on my code variables
   7. a local search engine to look for U2 variables or subroutines
   8. a local search for just strings using regular expressions
   9. The ability to have multiple sessions open and manage those sessions
   10. The ability to sync your local storage with the database with a
   single click

Those people have a better feeling about the technology they purchase then
seeing some typing "OOPS" or "C/oldvariable/newvarable/g".

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com/tools.html
"XLr8Editor saves time for U2 programmers"


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:16 AM, George Gallen <[email protected]>wrote:

> Doug,
>
> I totally disagree!  Yes, once you get used to a GUI editor, ED/AE can be
> tough, but it has it's merits too.
>
> One, it's quick - it's ALWAYS available.
>
> Would you honestly invoke a GUI editor to make a quick change to a VOC
> entry?
>
> It's a tool of the trade - it needs to be a required learn
>
> George
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