My other, !!!MAJOR!!! concern with this is the loss of the medium of mail. This is actually probably quite a serious loss for non-USians :-( (Plus it's the only practical medium at work :-(
Forum software assumes easy access to a fast, cheap internet pipe. None of the fora I have seen is conducive (to my mind) to a good, in-depth conversation. And, to put it bluntly, I PREFER to work off-line. I know I'm often sloppy :-) but working in fora means I'm also rushed. And I get put off by pages that grow and start to crawl (or get chopped up so I can't find what I'm looking for...). Plus, there's the time difference. How do I help someone stateside or down-under if our access times only overlap by an hour? With the list, it just happens that we notice the other person is around. With a forum, it's chance that mostly never happens :-( Obviously, as part of the u2ug board :-) I look at the fora, but I think it's a pretty safe bet that losing the oliver lists means I will migrate back to cdp for the most part, not to u2ug.org. Not that I think that would be a bad thing - consolidating the MV world back to cdp is something I'm very pro. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, Clif has done us a wonderful service, and this is really meant as a back-handed compliment :-) the lists WILL be sorely missed. Cheers, Wol -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Phillips Sent: 29 March 2004 10:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: U2UG Contract Hi all, Firstly, thanks to Cliff for all his work over the years. I guess that most of us are looking to move to the U2UG site. I started off down that path this morning but, being a careful sort of person, I read the terms and conditions. Clause 7a worries me. I have discussed this briefly with our legal advisors who said that we shouldn't agree to it without clarification. So what is clause 7a?... 7. Submission of Content on this Web Site. By providing any Content to our web site: (a) you agree to grant to us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, non-exclusive right and license (including any moral rights or other necessary rights) to use, display, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, distribute, perform, promote, archive, translate, and to create derivative works and compilations, in whole or in part. Such license will apply with respect to any form, media, technology known or later developed; My non-legal mind looks at this and reads into it that once I have submitted a posting to the site, I give away all rights to everything I have done and all my future work that may have any connection with what I have posted. I'm not even certain that the connection is necessary! Any views out there before we all (possibly) donate our life's work to IBM? Martin Phillips Ladybridge Systems 17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton NN4 6DB +44-(0)1604-709200 -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users *********************************************************************************** This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. *********************************************************************************** -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
