"Lee Bacall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Cliff, > I would like to thank you for being a selfless and non-partisan > moderator as well as an apparent workaholic all these years, > supporting the needs of the Universe/Unidata user base as well as the > incredibly diverse whimsey found within the ranks of your loosely > coupled band of angels. I too am grateful for all of the many hours that Cliff has invested in his effort. I think that it is time for some of the rest of us to step up to the plate and offer to help forward the cause of U2/MV. In its existing format there is no easy way for any of us to do that. I think that U2UG is a tool that we can use to allow others to help carry the load. > I am truly saddened to see the transition of this forum from one of > "folk-art" to a structured forum where the genius of those offering > their wisdom and well thought out (or sometimes merely inspired) > solutions, will thereafter become the intellectual properties of IBM. I don't know what "folk-art" means, and am unsure how adding structure to a discussion group is a bad thing, but as has been said elsewhere IBM does not own, operate or control U2UG. I do know that employees within IBM are very excited to contribute their time and efforts to U2UG, but this is in no way an indication that IBM owns the group. As is stated on every page of the website, your IP remains your IP. <snip> > I am saddened to see that the 60's are over and that 1984 is indeed > upon us. And here I thought that a group of like minded individuals getting together to better communicate with (impose its will upon??) a large multinational corporation was a very 60's thing to do. :) Maybe I'm just too young <big grin>. <snip> > I for one am certainly in favor of a large, united front for all of us > involved with a "non-normalized first firm, nested, post-relational > database" and all of it's 19 +/- variants. I think that U2UG can provide that. We have the advantage of *already* having IBM supporting the effort. It would be tragic if we left IBM sitting alone at the conference table because the user community couldn't reach agreement. -- ~ kevin zollinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
