I can waste money on Mikrotik for a 2 year window until totally banned.
It looks like I can take Cambium to the bank at the moment.
Hopefully we will know soon if we can take Mimosa to the bank.
At some point I am going to stop wasting money on ubnt until the goods are in hand and working. Thank GOD I didn't jump on the gps and rocket ti bandwagon. That would have been expensive. Now I am wondering if I did make a mistake jumping on the ubnt bandwagon too soon. I can live without DFS for 6 more months, I can't live without UNII-1 any longer.

On 11/2/2014 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
When someone brings up switching to Mikrotik wireless, I stop taking them seriously. This is Mikrotik to the FCC: http://bit.ly/1wX04zi

UBNT probably don't know either or if they do, I certainly wouldn't make announcements about the DFS process other than in progress. Letting too much out to competitors at that point.

As this thread has just turned into Paul crying, I'm out.



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*From: *"Paul" <[email protected]>
*To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:59:34 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

YES we are all having to assume. We get very little good info from them that
we can take to the bank.
I don't little being treated like a mushroom!
Right now Mikrotik looks good for 2 years for non-DFS until ubnt can get their sh** together
on their core products.

On 11/2/2014 8:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

    I assume that due to the sensitive nature of the DFS
    certifications, they're not changing anything on those products
    until the DFS is complete.



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    Mike Hammett
    Intelligent Computing Solutions
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    *From: *"Paul" <[email protected]>
    *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]>
    *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:51:41 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

    But I assumed, and was wrong that UNII-1 would be a simple
    permissive form filing
    which later turned into a full DFS certification required for ubnt
    for some reason.
    DFS, I understand but most other companies had the permissive
    change made
    in June when allowed.


    On 11/2/2014 8:44 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

        Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on
        Nanobeam guys? Got a firm date you can commit to?

        My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and
        nobody wants to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of
        getting stuck with half a container once the Nanobeams get DFS
        finally. So I'm faced with a long backorder on a product I
        need or play the old ubnt scramble to find someone with a few
        boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a waste of
        time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from
        a random supplier and shipping it across the country.





        On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Look, Ben and Matt are on this board.  If you have a
            complaint, tell them directly and give them a chance to
            make it right.  If they don't, then make that public.  The
            manufacturer should be liable to defective products, no
            question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the
            customer, especially not in a small and public community
            like this.   As for the DFS channels, I'm sure that will
            get resolved and there was enough information around that
            you should have known that feature, along with PTMP,
            wasn't going to happen soon.  But this is a small problem
            compared to the cable and Rocket GPS. In those cases, the
            product either didn't deliver what it was supposed to or
            simply fell apart.  Different situation.

             Rory

            -----Original Message-----
            From: [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Paul
            Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM
            To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

            But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable
            crap and time to replace and equipment setting on the
            shelf unable to use.


            On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
            > With the Rocket GPS, I agree.  The should have publicly
            offered to buy every single unit back.  I'm still sitting
            with 1/2 roll of the crappy melt in the sun cable that I
            have to RMA.  With this situation though, part of it was
            Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the
            inefficiency of government in general. Holding an entire
            industry back for months at a time is another example why
            other countries out-manufacture us and our politicians are
            inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this to happen.
            >
            > Rory
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Paul
            > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM
            > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
            >
            > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for
            future promises and we had to pay a premium to get the
            equipment early without the needed features.
            >
            > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
            >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance.  The lack of
            any real answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly
            turtle pace that development of this product line goes
            at,...  Internally I kid with myself (only have jokingly)
            that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before
            Ubiquiti does.  Each of their releases have significant
            updates as well.
            >>
            >>
            >> Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]> )
            >> Excel.Net, Inc. -- http://www.excel.net/
            >> (920) 452-0455 <tel:%28920%29%20452-0455> --
            Sheboygan/Plymouth area
            >> (888) 489-9995 <tel:%28888%29%20489-9995> -- Other
            areas, toll-free
            >>
            >> ----- Original Message -----
            >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>>
            >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM
            >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
            >>
            >> Tone down the hysteria guys.  The FCC certifies
            manufacturers in batch.
            >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an
            issue, all their
            >> radios went to the back of the line.  That included the
            Powerbeam.
            >> That's the delay.  But yes, the PowerBridge not getting
            certified
            >> totally sucked.  I've got a bunch of them.
            >>
            >> Rory
            >>
            >> -----Original Message-----
            >> From: [email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            >> [mailto:[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>]
            >> On Behalf Of Paul
            >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM
            >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
            >>
            >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt
            equipment of
            >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless
            it is already
            >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word?
            >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling
            very much like
            >> a partner anymore!
            >>
            >>
            >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
            >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote:
            >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have
            already bought
            >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems?
            >>>>
            >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying
            everything and thus
            >>> a risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for
            example.
            >>>
            >>> ~Seth
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