YES we are all having to assume. We get very little good info from them that
we can take to the bank.
I don't little being treated like a mushroom!
Right now Mikrotik looks good for 2 years for non-DFS until ubnt can get their sh** together
on their core products.

On 11/2/2014 8:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I assume that due to the sensitive nature of the DFS certifications, they're not changing anything on those products until the DFS is complete.



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*From: *"Paul" <[email protected]>
*To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:51:41 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

But I assumed, and was wrong that UNII-1 would be a simple permissive form filing which later turned into a full DFS certification required for ubnt for some reason.
DFS, I understand but most other companies had the permissive change made
in June when allowed.


On 11/2/2014 8:44 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:

    Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on
    Nanobeam guys? Got a firm date you can commit to?

    My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody
    wants to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting
    stuck with half a container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So
    I'm faced with a long backorder on a product I need or play the
    old ubnt scramble to find someone with a few boxes to get me
    through another few weeks, which is a waste of time an ends up
    costing me more ordering small quantities from a random supplier
    and shipping it across the country.





    On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Look, Ben and Matt are on this board.  If you have a
        complaint, tell them directly and give them a chance to make
        it right.  If they don't, then make that public.  The
        manufacturer should be liable to defective products, no
        question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the
        customer, especially not in a small and public community like
        this.   As for the DFS channels, I'm sure that will get
        resolved and there was enough information around that you
        should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't going
        to happen soon.  But this is a small problem compared to the
        cable and Rocket GPS. In those cases, the product either
didn't deliver what it was supposed to or simply fell apart. Different situation.

         Rory

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Paul
        Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

        But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap
        and time to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable
        to use.


        On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
        > With the Rocket GPS, I agree.  The should have publicly
        offered to buy every single unit back.  I'm still sitting with
        1/2 roll of the crappy melt in the sun cable that I have to
        RMA. With this situation though, part of it was Ubiquiti's
        fault, part of it was the FCC process and the inefficiency of
        government in general. Holding an entire industry back for
        months at a time is another example why other countries
        out-manufacture us and our politicians are inept at best,
        crooked at worst, for allowing this to happen.
        >
        > Rory
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Paul
        > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM
        > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
        >
        > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future
        promises and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment
        early without the needed features.
        >
        > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote:
        >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance. The lack of any
        real answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace
        that development of this product line goes at,...  Internally
        I kid with myself (only have jokingly) that Cambium will
        release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti does.  Each of
        their releases have significant updates as well.
        >>
        >>
        >> Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]> )
        >> Excel.Net, Inc. -- http://www.excel.net/
        >> (920) 452-0455 <tel:%28920%29%20452-0455> --
        Sheboygan/Plymouth area
        >> (888) 489-9995 <tel:%28888%29%20489-9995> -- Other areas,
        toll-free
        >>
        >> ----- Original Message -----
        >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM
        >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
        >>
        >> Tone down the hysteria guys.  The FCC certifies
        manufacturers in batch.
        >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an
        issue, all their
        >> radios went to the back of the line. That included the
        Powerbeam.
        >> That's the delay.  But yes, the PowerBridge not getting
        certified
        >> totally sucked.  I've got a bunch of them.
        >>
        >> Rory
        >>
        >> -----Original Message-----
        >> From: [email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        >> [mailto:[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>]
        >> On Behalf Of Paul
        >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM
        >> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400
        >>
        >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt
        equipment of
        >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is
        already
        >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word?
        >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very
        much like
        >> a partner anymore!
        >>
        >>
        >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
        >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote:
        >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have
        already bought
        >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems?
        >>>>
        >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying
        everything and thus
        >>> a risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for example.
        >>>
        >>> ~Seth
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