Are you saying the EPMP is a terrible CPE? Is it the size that sucks?
*From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:24 PM *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] {Spam?} Re: NanoBeam M5 400 I've been deploying ePMP this year. Every once in a while I circle to see if the horse is still dead while I deploy someone else's gear instead. U-NII1 DFS Sync (Oh yeah, and a terrible CPE.) ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ------------------------------ *From: *"Paul" <[email protected]> *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 9:21:10 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] {Spam?} Re: NanoBeam M5 400 OK Mike I will go away, but it still doesn't change the problem with ubnt! On 11/2/2014 9:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: When someone brings up switching to Mikrotik wireless, I stop taking them seriously. This is Mikrotik to the FCC: http://bit.ly/1wX04zi UBNT probably don't know either or if they do, I certainly wouldn't make announcements about the DFS process other than in progress. Letting too much out to competitors at that point. As this thread has just turned into Paul crying, I'm out. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ------------------------------ *From: *"Paul" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:59:34 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 YES we are all having to assume. We get very little good info from them that we can take to the bank. I don't little being treated like a mushroom! Right now Mikrotik looks good for 2 years for non-DFS until ubnt can get their sh** together on their core products. On 11/2/2014 8:54 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I assume that due to the sensitive nature of the DFS certifications, they're not changing anything on those products until the DFS is complete. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ------------------------------ *From: *"Paul" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *Sent: *Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:51:41 PM *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 But I assumed, and was wrong that UNII-1 would be a simple permissive form filing which later turned into a full DFS certification required for ubnt for some reason. DFS, I understand but most other companies had the permissive change made in June when allowed. On 11/2/2014 8:44 PM, Chris Fabien wrote: Okay, if Ben and Matt are here, what's the Date for DFS on Nanobeam guys? Got a firm date you can commit to? My biggest bitch right now is I need high-gain DFS CPEs and nobody wants to stock nanobridges anymore, they're scared of getting stuck with half a container once the Nanobeams get DFS finally. So I'm faced with a long backorder on a product I need or play the old ubnt scramble to find someone with a few boxes to get me through another few weeks, which is a waste of time an ends up costing me more ordering small quantities from a random supplier and shipping it across the country. On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: Look, Ben and Matt are on this board. If you have a complaint, tell them directly and give them a chance to make it right. If they don't, then make that public. The manufacturer should be liable to defective products, no question, but nobody wants a reputation for cheating the customer, especially not in a small and public community like this. As for the DFS channels, I'm sure that will get resolved and there was enough information around that you should have known that feature, along with PTMP, wasn't going to happen soon. But this is a small problem compared to the cable and Rocket GPS. In those cases, the product either didn't deliver what it was supposed to or simply fell apart. Different situation. Rory -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:21 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 But we are stuck paying the bill. Especially on the cable crap and time to replace and equipment setting on the shelf unable to use. On 11/2/2014 8:20 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: > With the Rocket GPS, I agree. The should have publicly offered to buy every single unit back. I'm still sitting with 1/2 roll of the crappy melt in the sun cable that I have to RMA. With this situation though, part of it was Ubiquiti's fault, part of it was the FCC process and the inefficiency of government in general. Holding an entire industry back for months at a time is another example why other countries out-manufacture us and our politicians are inept at best, crooked at worst, for allowing this to happen. > > Rory > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 > > It's not hysteria when they extract money from us for future promises and we had to pay a premium to get the equipment early without the needed features. > > On 11/2/2014 8:01 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: >> Not so sure it is hysteria as annoyance. The lack of any real answers from Ubiquiti about this, the nearly turtle pace that development of this product line goes at,... Internally I kid with myself (only have jokingly) that Cambium will release 5.6 of the ePMP line before Ubiquiti does. Each of their releases have significant updates as well. >> >> >> Larry A. Weidig ( [email protected] ) >> Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >> (920) 452-0455 – Sheboygan/Plymouth area >> (888) 489-9995 – Other areas, toll-free >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 6:56:03 PM >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >> >> Tone down the hysteria guys. The FCC certifies manufacturers in batch. >> When Ubiquiti had to pull a radio from the FCC for an issue, all their >> radios went to the back of the line. That included the Powerbeam. >> That's the delay. But yes, the PowerBridge not getting certified >> totally sucked. I've got a bunch of them. >> >> Rory >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Paul >> Sent: Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:45 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400 >> >> So you are saying we take a risk every time we buy ubnt equipment of >> notting getting what was promised and expected unless it is already >> there? Maybe we shouldn't trust ubnt at their word? >> I have a lot invested in ubnt and they are not feeling very much like >> a partner anymore! >> >> >> On 11/2/2014 6:41 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: >>> On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote: >>>> So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already bought >>>> will not certify because of hardware problems? >>>> >>> No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and thus >>> a risk of such a situation. 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