Waste of time in the licensed world.  They all perform as they advertise.
Modulation * channel size = megabits per second.  Price varies, GUI varies,
support varies.  Go SAF!


Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:20 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:

> And on that note, has anyone done a "backhaul bakeoff" lately? I'd like to
> know what kind of performance (and cost) is available out there these days!
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> There's a plethora of WISPA vendor members that make (or sell) licensed
>> links. Few people have anything bad to say about any of them.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:56:59 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>
>> That is what I’m thinking Mike, I’ve already shot an E-mail off to Pete @
>> SAF to start looking at some licensed gear.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>
>>
>>
>> You're not going to find much that'll do better than 100/100 at that
>> distance without going licensed. Maybe the PTP600\650? Anything AC based
>> with appropriately sized dishes will and will likely also work in 5150.
>> However, a 100/100 customer should be generating $1,500-$2,500/month, so
>> maybe a licensed link is in the budget?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:06:34 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>
>> Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>
>>
>>
>> As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it should
>> work fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be able to
>> do 149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more than
>> that, you can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty much
>> the whole 5.8ghz band.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] on
>> behalf of Mike Hammett [[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>
>> http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators
>> http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf
>>
>> Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you
>> have low noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you
>> have to use 5.8.
>>
>> For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits, a
>> 10 MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x
>> modulation, 10 MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need
>> the next bigger channel (roughly).
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png] <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM
>> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>
>> Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from
>> one of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber
>> fed tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can
>> shorten that to a single 13 Mile hop but I’m wondering if I can use an AF 5
>> for that hop and get the needed throughput.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Robert Haas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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