Everyone has their fave brand. SAF is probably good, we drank the exalt
coolaid and so far it's good.
For 100x100 I wouldn't even consider unlicensed personally. Unless they
were fully aware that the link may degrade due to interference, etc.

If licensed is an option, contact several vendors, and have them prices the
whole thing out, maybe talk to some people who use the gear already..

If anything start with something like AF5 and move to licensed if you have
problem or while the license and gear is coming in.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Waste of time in the licensed world.  They all perform as they advertise.
> Modulation * channel size = megabits per second.  Price varies, GUI varies,
> support varies.  Go SAF!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:20 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And on that note, has anyone done a "backhaul bakeoff" lately? I'd like
>> to know what kind of performance (and cost) is available out there these
>> days!
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's a plethora of WISPA vendor members that make (or sell) licensed
>>> links. Few people have anything bad to say about any of them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:56:59 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> That is what I’m thinking Mike, I’ve already shot an E-mail off to Pete
>>> @ SAF to start looking at some licensed gear.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're not going to find much that'll do better than 100/100 at that
>>> distance without going licensed. Maybe the PTP600\650? Anything AC based
>>> with appropriately sized dishes will and will likely also work in 5150.
>>> However, a 100/100 customer should be generating $1,500-$2,500/month, so
>>> maybe a licensed link is in the budget?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:06:34 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [
>>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it
>>> should work fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be
>>> able to do 149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more
>>> than that, you can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty
>>> much the whole 5.8ghz band.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [[email protected]]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators
>>> http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf
>>>
>>> Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you
>>> have low noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you
>>> have to use 5.8.
>>>
>>> For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits,
>>> a 10 MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x
>>> modulation, 10 MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need
>>> the next bigger channel (roughly).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <[email protected]>
>>> *To: *"ubnt users" <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM
>>> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from
>>> one of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber
>>> fed tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can
>>> shorten that to a single 13 Mile hop but I’m wondering if I can use an AF 5
>>> for that hop and get the needed throughput.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Robert Haas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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