If you're using SAF, then keep using them unless you have a reason to change for the exact reasons you specify.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Haas" <rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 4:13:32 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance We already use SAF Lumina’s which I’ve had good luck with. A plus would be if we can use the same band radio to minimize on the shelf spares. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:02 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance There's a plethora of WISPA vendor members that make (or sell) licensed links. Few people have anything bad to say about any of them. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Robert Haas" < rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:56:59 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance That is what I’m thinking Mike, I’ve already shot an E-mail off to Pete @ SAF to start looking at some licensed gear. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance You're not going to find much that'll do better than 100/100 at that distance without going licensed. Maybe the PTP600\650? Anything AC based with appropriately sized dishes will and will likely also work in 5150. However, a 100/100 customer should be generating $1,500-$2,500/month, so maybe a licensed link is in the budget? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png From: "Robert Haas" < rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 1:06:34 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it should work fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be able to do 149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more than that, you can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty much the whole 5.8ghz band. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you have low noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you have to use 5.8. For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits, a 10 MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x modulation, 10 MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need the next bigger channel (roughly). ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.pnghttp://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png From: "Robert Haas" < rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com > To: "ubnt users" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM Subject: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi? We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from one of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber fed tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can shorten that to a single 13 Mile hop but I’m wondering if I can use an AF 5 for that hop and get the needed throughput. Thanks, Robert Haas _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users _______________________________________________ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
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