That's good to know. What about unlicensed since we know those vary
greatly!

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Waste of time in the licensed world.  They all perform as they advertise.
> Modulation * channel size = megabits per second.  Price varies, GUI varies,
> support varies.  Go SAF!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:20 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> And on that note, has anyone done a "backhaul bakeoff" lately? I'd like
>> to know what kind of performance (and cost) is available out there these
>> days!
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's a plethora of WISPA vendor members that make (or sell) licensed
>>> links. Few people have anything bad to say about any of them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:56:59 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> That is what I'm thinking Mike, I've already shot an E-mail off to Pete
>>> @ SAF to start looking at some licensed gear.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:
>>> ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 1:12 PM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You're not going to find much that'll do better than 100/100 at that
>>> distance without going licensed. Maybe the PTP600\650? Anything AC based
>>> with appropriately sized dishes will and will likely also work in 5150.
>>> However, a 100/100 customer should be generating $1,500-$2,500/month, so
>>> maybe a licensed link is in the budget?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
>>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 1:06:34 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> Thanks, sounds like I need to look towards a different solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [
>>> mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:59 AM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As long as it has good line of site and 5.8ghz is clean enough, it
>>> should work fine. According to the built in link calculator, it should be
>>> able to do 149.76Mbps using 20mhz channels at 13 miles... if you need more
>>> than that, you can use wider channels, but that's going to be using pretty
>>> much the whole 5.8ghz band.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] on
>>> behalf of Mike Hammett [wispaubntus...@ics-il.net]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 01, 2014 11:35 AM
>>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> http://www.balticnetworks.com/wireless-calculators
>>> http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/airfiber/airFiber_DS.pdf
>>>
>>> Guessing 20 dB of Tx power, you should be able to maintain that if you
>>> have low noise. AF5 won't work in 5150. DFS won't reach that far, so you
>>> have to use 5.8.
>>>
>>> For areas over -88 noise it probably won't work well. If noise permits,
>>> a 10 MHz or 20 MHz channel will give you 100/100. If you can make 8x
>>> modulation, 10 MHz should be fine. For each lower modulation, you'll need
>>> the next bigger channel (roughly).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[image:
>>> http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Robert Haas" <rob-li...@bpsnetworks.com>
>>> *To: *"ubnt users" <ubnt_users@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 1, 2014 11:25:27 AM
>>> *Subject: *[Ubnt_users] AF5 distance
>>>
>>> Would an AF5 be able to supply 150/150 (true throughput) @ 13mi?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a customer requesting a 100/100 connection who is 5 miles from
>>> one of our tower sites. Our site is currently 3 hops from any of our fiber
>>> fed tower sites. With some redesign work and a mile or two of fiber I can
>>> shorten that to a single 13 Mile hop but I'm wondering if I can use an AF 5
>>> for that hop and get the needed throughput.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Robert Haas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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