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*Daniel Peoples* Resonance Broadband *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> 918-429-3620 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > How do you manage radios (upgrades, etc) with Cambium? > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely plausible to move >> over. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]> >> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl >> >> Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a >> great big poo stain. >> >> If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial >> spert of awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will >> eventually be stuck by the wayside, as there just isn't enough margin in a >> $100 radio to support a tool like this. >> Can Cambium or anyone else like them do this better? Sure, but they have >> ap's that cost 10 times as much, and SM's that cost 4 to 5 times as much so >> they can support these tools. >> >> If it is a paid(MRC) billing platform, it will more than likely mature >> into something that is MUCH better than ac 1 or 2 , and something that >> actually on the billing side approaches a real billing software and CPE >> management system. >> >> All of this said, I run AC1 for management and swiftfox for billing, the >> two programs both do exactly what I want from them, and that is ALL I want >> them to do. If ubnt makes a product that does both functions and is around >> the same price or even higher per cpe, then hoo rah, saves me complexity in >> billing and management. >> >> As for the "cloud" side of this, yes it will always have more >> vulnerabilities than my ac1 server that doesn't even know where the >> internet is, but you have to put your billing system on the internet so >> that it can process a CC, and don't forget that your azotel or your >> powercode bmu sets IN the data stream. DDOS the box and your entire >> internet connection dies, because they have you to route the information >> through the hardware. >> BUT at the same time, my new installer doesn't even know that ac1 exists >> passed me showing him stat graphs, and he couldn't possibly hope to learn >> how you tie all of that stuff together to make the solid picture that I do >> when I look at all of the stuff together. >> >> >> I honestly don't see what all the nay saying is about. If they do it >> right, it will be a properly good tool, if they don't do it right, the >> adoption numbers will tell them that they did wrong. >> >> *Daniel Peoples* >> Resonance Broadband >> *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> >> 918-429-3620 >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you UBNT for treating your customers like they are just a bunch of >>> hobbyists. There are many of us trying to run a business and having the >>> proper tools to do that is essential. For several years we have been >>> told that Air Control is being active developed, we have programmers >>> working on it, etc. >>> >>> I have ran a small WISP (1800+ UBNT devices) and if it wasn¹t for the few >>> piece of AC that worked it would have been a nightmare upgrading >>> firmware, >>> and checking on the worst performing clients. Sure, we could have spent >>> countless hours on writing scripts, integrating with 3rd party tools, but >>> I shouldn¹t have to. If you give me a tool, make it work at one point. >>> I >>> can get that Beta software is, just that, Beta Software. Has anyone at >>> UBNT actually tried to manage 2000 devices? Upgrading firmware, making >>> changes, monitoring, etc. >>> >>> It¹s insulting that we spend good money. At one point, we were spending >>> 20-30k a month buying UBNT products. I realize margins are thin, >>> marketing, overhead, blah blah blah. But, if my folks spent less time >>> monkeying with firmware upgrades and the like they could put on more >>> customers. More customers means more revenue for UBNT. Not to mention >>> the fact that I am sure there are operators out there who would PAY for a >>> working AC. Why? Because it saves them labor! Saving labor means saving >>> money! That¹s a benefit. There are reasons products like Observium and >>> Nagios which have paid and free Versions. I would pay money if it meant >>> I >>> had less hassle. >>> >>> Cloud based for a network monitoring solution? Really? This is such a bad >>> idea. How many years will this product be in Alpha or Beta? I installed >>> the CMS from Cambium and guess what? It worked? Because it worked my >>> client is now sold on Cambium. They see that its an integrated solution. >>> Market toward the bean counters AND the geeks. Not just throw it out >>> there. >>> >>> I know that¹s more than my .02 but dang. You missed the boat UBNT. >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>> http://www.mtin.net <http://www.mtin.net/blog> >>> Managed Services xISP Solutions Data Centers >>> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com >>> Podcast about xISP topics >>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>> Peering Transit Internet Exchange >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > > -- > -RickG KyWiFi > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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