Looks great! Does it work? What is the cost? On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Peoples <[email protected]> wrote:
> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/management-tools/cns-server > > *Daniel Peoples* > Resonance Broadband > *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> > 918-429-3620 > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:23 AM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > >> How do you manage radios (upgrades, etc) with Cambium? >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Cambium has CPE at $120 and APs at $500. Completely plausible to move >>> over. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Daniel Peoples" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, December 2, 2014 10:42:38 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl >>> >>> Depending on the direction that the tool takes, it could be gold or a >>> great big poo stain. >>> >>> If it is a free to use tool like ac1 or ac2, it will have that initial >>> spert of awesome that will taper to nothing in a year or two. It will >>> eventually be stuck by the wayside, as there just isn't enough margin in a >>> $100 radio to support a tool like this. >>> Can Cambium or anyone else like them do this better? Sure, but they have >>> ap's that cost 10 times as much, and SM's that cost 4 to 5 times as much so >>> they can support these tools. >>> >>> If it is a paid(MRC) billing platform, it will more than likely mature >>> into something that is MUCH better than ac 1 or 2 , and something that >>> actually on the billing side approaches a real billing software and CPE >>> management system. >>> >>> All of this said, I run AC1 for management and swiftfox for billing, the >>> two programs both do exactly what I want from them, and that is ALL I want >>> them to do. If ubnt makes a product that does both functions and is around >>> the same price or even higher per cpe, then hoo rah, saves me complexity in >>> billing and management. >>> >>> As for the "cloud" side of this, yes it will always have more >>> vulnerabilities than my ac1 server that doesn't even know where the >>> internet is, but you have to put your billing system on the internet so >>> that it can process a CC, and don't forget that your azotel or your >>> powercode bmu sets IN the data stream. DDOS the box and your entire >>> internet connection dies, because they have you to route the information >>> through the hardware. >>> BUT at the same time, my new installer doesn't even know that ac1 exists >>> passed me showing him stat graphs, and he couldn't possibly hope to learn >>> how you tie all of that stuff together to make the solid picture that I do >>> when I look at all of the stuff together. >>> >>> >>> I honestly don't see what all the nay saying is about. If they do it >>> right, it will be a properly good tool, if they don't do it right, the >>> adoption numbers will tell them that they did wrong. >>> >>> *Daniel Peoples* >>> Resonance Broadband >>> *Resonancebroadband.com* <http://Resonancebroadband.com> >>> 918-429-3620 >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Justin Wilson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you UBNT for treating your customers like they are just a bunch of >>>> hobbyists. There are many of us trying to run a business and having the >>>> proper tools to do that is essential. For several years we have been >>>> told that Air Control is being active developed, we have programmers >>>> working on it, etc. >>>> >>>> I have ran a small WISP (1800+ UBNT devices) and if it wasn¹t for the >>>> few >>>> piece of AC that worked it would have been a nightmare upgrading >>>> firmware, >>>> and checking on the worst performing clients. Sure, we could have spent >>>> countless hours on writing scripts, integrating with 3rd party tools, >>>> but >>>> I shouldn¹t have to. If you give me a tool, make it work at one >>>> point. I >>>> can get that Beta software is, just that, Beta Software. Has anyone at >>>> UBNT actually tried to manage 2000 devices? Upgrading firmware, making >>>> changes, monitoring, etc. >>>> >>>> It¹s insulting that we spend good money. At one point, we were spending >>>> 20-30k a month buying UBNT products. I realize margins are thin, >>>> marketing, overhead, blah blah blah. But, if my folks spent less time >>>> monkeying with firmware upgrades and the like they could put on more >>>> customers. More customers means more revenue for UBNT. Not to mention >>>> the fact that I am sure there are operators out there who would PAY for >>>> a >>>> working AC. Why? Because it saves them labor! Saving labor means saving >>>> money! That¹s a benefit. There are reasons products like Observium and >>>> Nagios which have paid and free Versions. I would pay money if it >>>> meant I >>>> had less hassle. >>>> >>>> Cloud based for a network monitoring solution? Really? This is such a >>>> bad >>>> idea. How many years will this product be in Alpha or Beta? I installed >>>> the CMS from Cambium and guess what? It worked? Because it worked my >>>> client is now sold on Cambium. They see that its an integrated >>>> solution. >>>> Market toward the bean counters AND the geeks. Not just throw it out >>>> there. >>>> >>>> I know that¹s more than my .02 but dang. You missed the boat UBNT. >>>> >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Justin Wilson <[email protected]> >>>> http://www.mtin.net <http://www.mtin.net/blog> >>>> Managed Services xISP Solutions Data Centers >>>> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com >>>> Podcast about xISP topics >>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com >>>> Peering Transit Internet Exchange >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -RickG KyWiFi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG KyWiFi
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