So the 30s would be a great replacement for some of our 90 degree sectors
as long as we're putting 3 of them in place per sector? Gain is similar or
better even at long distance like 8 miles or so?

Has anyone done a 12 horn 30 degree setup yet for full 360 coverage on a
tower? If the front to back and side lobes are great, this would seem to be
achievable.

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Tasos Alexiou <[email protected]> wrote:

> Lol... No worries. The 30s rock and our 50 or 60 have great performance.
> The 90s are great little sectors but range can be limited. I hope you
> report back your results when you try the 60 or 30.
>
> On Sep 27, 2016 8:06 PM, "Chris Ruschmann" <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> Well shit, I guess if I just would have went on your site I would have
>> saw that J
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess I have the 60’s as well, not 65’s as you don’t make them, I
>> haven’t deployed any yet though, only the 90’s.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks though, I’ll give them a shot.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
>> [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Tasos Alexiou
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:47 PM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a 18db 30deg version that is performing better than 20 or 21db
>> traditional sectors as Garth mentioned. You should give one of them a try..
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tasos Alexiou
>> Managing Partner
>> RFelements North America LLC
>>
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>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Chris Ruschmann <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>> It depends on the noise floor, most cpe’s according to the interface sit
>> in the 90’s. At the sector it’s usually in the high 80’s to low 90’s.
>>
>>
>>
>> So when we set people up and the return signal is in low to mid 70’s we
>> tend to not want to install. So several times this has happened, we have
>> just swapped the sector back to the AC 65degree panels and get to where we
>> need to be in the mid 60’s. Which makes sense since your adding 10 dbi back
>> to the link.
>>
>>
>>
>> So the question is, can you make a high gain version of the horns? A 16
>> to 20 dbi model would solve most issues for us on the longer shots.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
>> [email protected]
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>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:26 PM
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>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the SNRs\modulations like for the longer out ones?
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Chris Ruschmann" <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:36:27 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>
>> We have been using both the 65’s and the 90’s. Like I said, they work
>> really well in our less than a mile areas, better than any sector would in
>> fact.
>>
>>
>>
>> While I can connect devices over a mile, the signals on the receive side
>> of the sector don’t meet our minimum qualifications for a connection. I
>> think its a gain issue on the horn. 10 Dbi just isn’t enough for long range
>> PTMP at our return signal requirements.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
>> [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Tasos Alexiou
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:50 AM
>> *To:* Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for that feedback. I have a few questions.  What horns are you
>> using and what CPE's are connected?
>>
>>
>>
>> Customers are able to connect some devices over 10miles.  For example
>> using Airgrids or PBE400's on 30deg Horns. We had someone with a 30deg Horn
>> and RocketM5 connect to a NSM5LOCO at almost 3 miles.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Tasos Alexiou
>> Managing Partner
>> RFelements North America LLC
>>
>> Skype: tasosrfe
>> eMail: [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> Web: www.rfelements.com
>>
>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/rfelements
>>
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tasosalexiou
>>
>>
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>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Chris Ruschmann <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>> I use the feed horns as well, they work great up close, but as you get
>> farther out, more than a mile, they start to have issues I've found.
>>
>> How far are you connecting you're your devices at?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> [mailto:
>> [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>]
>> On Behalf Of G. Nicholas
>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:29 PM
>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>
>> Evan,
>>
>> Yes you have the correct pairing,  we just converted a tower site from 4
>> Prism's on the UB Titanium sectors to the RF Elements 30deg horns.
>> Greatly reduced the noise floor by going to the 30deg which gave us higher
>> SNR and more 8x rates.  doing an ABC channel config until UB actually gets
>> the GPS sync on the Prisms working.   Total capacity on the tower now is
>> over 2 GBps.
>>
>>
>> Garth
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Evan Galvin
>> Sent: 9/26/2016 7:42:35 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>
>> > Hey guys, just wanted to confirm that the R5AC-PRISM-US has a metal
>> > shielded housing on it.
>> >
>> > Do you think it would pair up good with this combo:
>> >
>> > https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.aspb
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