Sectors

He ubnt 60degree AC.



Shawn C. Peppers
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> On Sep 27, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Shawn,
> 
> Are you using sectors or the horns? If sectors, which model?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Shawn C. Peppers 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> We run 6 x 60 on multiple towers without issue. 
>> 
>> Shawn C. Peppers
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>>> On Sep 27, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Tasos Alexiou <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Darin,
>>> 
>>> I dont know anyone who has tried 12 but that would be cool. I think GPS is 
>>> for sure needed :) I do think 6x 60deg might be possible w/o gps with an 
>>> ABC ABC channel set up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 27, 2016 9:08 PM, "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Adair,
>>> 
>>> That's exactly what it would look like on a pole lol! 
>>> 
>>> In some of your denser areas I think it would be cool to try doing 12 prism 
>>> sectors if they get GPS sync working. Lots of capacity that way 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Adair Winter <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> You said that and all I could think of was....<image.png>
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Darin Steffl <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> So the 30s would be a great replacement for some of our 90 degree sectors 
>>>>> as long as we're putting 3 of them in place per sector? Gain is similar 
>>>>> or better even at long distance like 8 miles or so?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has anyone done a 12 horn 30 degree setup yet for full 360 coverage on a 
>>>>> tower? If the front to back and side lobes are great, this would seem to 
>>>>> be achievable. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 27, 2016, Tasos Alexiou <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Lol... No worries. The 30s rock and our 50 or 60 have great performance. 
>>>>>> The 90s are great little sectors but range can be limited. I hope you 
>>>>>> report back your results when you try the 60 or 30.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2016 8:06 PM, "Chris Ruschmann" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Well shit, I guess if I just would have went on your site I would have 
>>>>>>> saw that J
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I guess I have the 60’s as well, not 65’s as you don’t make them, I 
>>>>>>> haven’t deployed any yet though, only the 90’s.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks though, I’ll give them a shot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tasos Alexiou
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:47 PM
>>>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have a 18db 30deg version that is performing better than 20 or 21db 
>>>>>>> traditional sectors as Garth mentioned. You should give one of them a 
>>>>>>> try..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tasos Alexiou
>>>>>>> Managing Partner
>>>>>>> RFelements North America LLC
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Skype: tasosrfe
>>>>>>> eMail: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Web: www.rfelements.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/rfelements
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tasosalexiou
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 7:39 PM, Chris Ruschmann <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It depends on the noise floor, most cpe’s according to the interface 
>>>>>>> sit in the 90’s. At the sector it’s usually in the high 80’s to low 
>>>>>>> 90’s.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So when we set people up and the return signal is in low to mid 70’s we 
>>>>>>> tend to not want to install. So several times this has happened, we 
>>>>>>> have just swapped the sector back to the AC 65degree panels and get to 
>>>>>>> where we need to be in the mid 60’s. Which makes sense since your 
>>>>>>> adding 10 dbi back to the link.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So the question is, can you make a high gain version of the horns? A 16 
>>>>>>> to 20 dbi model would solve most issues for us on the longer shots.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 4:26 PM
>>>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What are the SNRs\modulations like for the longer out ones?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: "Chris Ruschmann" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 5:36:27 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have been using both the 65’s and the 90’s. Like I said, they work 
>>>>>>> really well in our less than a mile areas, better than any sector would 
>>>>>>> in fact.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While I can connect devices over a mile, the signals on the receive 
>>>>>>> side of the sector don’t meet our minimum qualifications for a 
>>>>>>> connection. I think its a gain issue on the horn. 10 Dbi just isn’t 
>>>>>>> enough for long range PTMP at our return signal requirements.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tasos Alexiou
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:50 AM
>>>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for that feedback. I have a few questions.  What horns are you 
>>>>>>> using and what CPE's are connected?  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Customers are able to connect some devices over 10miles.  For example 
>>>>>>> using Airgrids or PBE400's on 30deg Horns. We had someone with a 30deg 
>>>>>>> Horn and RocketM5 connect to a NSM5LOCO at almost 3 miles.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tasos Alexiou
>>>>>>> Managing Partner
>>>>>>> RFelements North America LLC
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Skype: tasosrfe
>>>>>>> eMail: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Web: www.rfelements.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/rfelements
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/tasosalexiou
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Chris Ruschmann <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I use the feed horns as well, they work great up close, but as you get
>>>>>>> farther out, more than a mile, they start to have issues I've found.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How far are you connecting you're your devices at?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of G. Nicholas
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:29 PM
>>>>>>> To: Ubiquiti Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Evan,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes you have the correct pairing,  we just converted a tower site from 4
>>>>>>> Prism's on the UB Titanium sectors to the RF Elements 30deg horns.
>>>>>>> Greatly reduced the noise floor by going to the 30deg which gave us 
>>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>> SNR and more 8x rates.  doing an ABC channel config until UB actually 
>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>> the GPS sync on the Prisms working.   Total capacity on the tower now is
>>>>>>> over 2 GBps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Garth
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Evan Galvin
>>>>>>> Sent: 9/26/2016 7:42:35 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: [Ubnt_users] R5AC-PRISM-US
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > Hey guys, just wanted to confirm that the R5AC-PRISM-US has a metal
>>>>>>> > shielded housing on it.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Do you think it would pair up good with this combo:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > https://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.aspb
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