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On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Mike Hammett <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

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> *From: *"Cliff deQuilettes" <cdequilet...@bfenetworks.com>
> *To: *"Brandon Gilles" <brandon.gil...@ubnt.com>, "Ubiquiti Users Group" <
> ubnt_users@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:34:48 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>
> *Sorry Another (617) emails* *from advertisers polluted my personal email** .
> can't read what you sent ME :o( DELETING all these Marketing and business
> people.*
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> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org <ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org> on
> behalf of Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:31:06 PM
> *To:* Brandon Gilles; Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>
>
> Yea, if that is if you use the 5GHz only for backhaul and it can maintain
> maximum modulation.  In the real world, if any user connects to those APs
> on 5GHz, especially with weak signals, then the bandwidth speeds will drop
> fast.
>
>
>
> I was wondering how the mesh works on best path analysis and routing
> priorities.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:47 PM
> *To:* Don Spaulding
> *Cc:* Ubiquiti Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] New UniFi Outdoor 11AC APs Coming Soon!
>
>
>
> Yes, each hop halves the throughput:
>
>
>
> Here's an example:
>
> ·       20MHz channels
>
> ·       Android(Nexus 6P) connected on 5GHz
>
> ·       UAP-AC-M
>
> Hardwired:
>
> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   272 MBytes   114 Mbits/sec
>                  sender
>
> [  5]   0.00-20.05  sec   271 MBytes   113 Mbits/sec
>                  receiver
>
>
>
> First hop:
>
> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.7 Mbits/sec
>                  sender
>
> [  5]   0.00-20.22  sec   122 MBytes  50.6 Mbits/sec
>                  receiver
>
>
>
> Second hop:
>
> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec
>                  sender
>
> [  5]   0.00-20.24  sec  66.2 MBytes  27.4 Mbits/sec
>                  receiver
>
>
>
> So when designing your network, can just plan on about that for
> service/etc.
>
>
>
> Hardwire as needed to maintain service level planned.
>
>
>
> Also keep in mind this is when station is connected on 5GHz.  You can
> always disable 5GHz service to stations, and use it for Mesh backhaul only,
> so:
>
>
>
> 5GHz: dedicated uplink for mesh.
>
> 2.4GHz: station service.
>
>
>
> This will increase performance.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:37 AM, Don Spaulding <d...@bloono.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how the multi-hop wireless uplink performs?
>
>
>
> I seem to recall lots of mesh solutions in the past were plagued by each
> wireless hop halving the throughput of the system.
>
>
>
> I'd like to use something like this in a small neighborhood where I could
> easily cover the whole neighborhood with 3-4 hops, but don't want to
> destroy the speeds when I get 10 devices trying to stream netflix over a
> 4-hop mesh.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:54 AM, Brian Madl - Edge Broadband <
> br...@whitewaterwideband.com> wrote:
>
> Can you clarify the difference between the M and the M-PRO as far as mesh
> goes? Do either of them mesh to either unit?
>
> Say I wanted to install 4 APs in a park, do I need 1 M-PRO and 3 M?
>
> Or could I simply install 4 M units, uplink to one of them and mesh the
> other 3?
>
>
>
> On 11/15/2016 11:40 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> For general availability - we're shipping quite a few of each of these in
> December.  And smaller shipments towards the end of this month.
>
>
>
> You can also buy the UAP-AC-M from the Beta Store at store.ubnt.com/beta 
> (there
> are about 500 left) now and the UAP-AC-M-PRO next week from there.
>
>
>
> These will be the same hardware which is shipping later this month.  We
> release there first to say thanks to our early adopters - and also to help
> those guys who always want the latest/greatest - get it first.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
>
> When will they ship at those prices?
>
> I just had a job decline the bid for a system... And those prices would
> allow me to re bid at 25-35% less or so...
>
>
>
> Blair
>
> --
>
>
>
> On 11/15/2016 3:56 PM, Brandon Gilles via Ubnt_users wrote:
>
> Hey Ubiquiti Users,
>
>
>
> Wanted to point out some new outdoor APs for UniFi:
>
>    - UAP-AC-M: $99 | 11ac 2x2 dual-band concurrent | Connectorized
>    - UAP-AC-M-PRO: $199 | 11ac 3x3 dual-band concurrent | Integrated Omni
>
> We listened to our top 3 requests from the previous AC-Outdoor:
>
> #1: Wireless uplink.  Supported.
> #2: Cost.  $479 to $99 and $199 respectively.
> #3: Connectorized.  UAP-AC-M.
>
>
>
> Check them out here:
>
> https://unifi-mesh.ubnt.com/
>
>
>
> These have limited initial shipments this month, and are shipping in
> volume in December.
>
>
>
> And Beta users can actually buy them now at store.ubnt.com/beta
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> UBNT-Brandon
>
>
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