Garth, what distances are your customers. A lot off ours are at 4 miles from mountain peak out to 10 miles off the same AP. Do M5 ACs perform well over those distances. We have no AC radios deployed at this time. I am trying to figure out where to upgrade to PRISMs and where to do Mimosa. In either case it is 90% of customers that will need truck roll.
Eden Recor Grand County Internet 970-627-0034 Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 22, 2016, at 1:19 PM, G. Nicholas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Chris, > > Yes in our case but that was probably due to the fact that we had some > sectors with over 25 CPE, which is really more then a rocket AP can handle > when we sell 4, 6, and 10Mbps plans, although with the Prisms we now offer a > 25 Mbps plan. The second cpu on the Prism for Airmax really helps. Plus > while I can't say when it will be released, they do have GPS sync capability > (in 8.1 Alpha). > > Garth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Frost > Sent: 12/22/2016 2:03:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases > >> Garth, did you see those performance improvements on the older CPE just by >> swapping the AP radio? >> >> Chris Frost >> Director of Technology and Infrastructure >> Cruzio Internet >> 831.459.6301 x235 >> >>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:01 PM, G. Nicholas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tyson, >>> >>> Yes, The AC Prism AP will outperform the original rocket by about 70% in >>> our opinion. We have been doing what you are asking about in our >>> Bloomington/Peoria market and the Prism's are great. We have both legacy M >>> series bridges and beams as well as new AC CPE and all are performing well. >>> We did have a few places where we also switched out the Sector Antennas to >>> RF 30deg horns which really lowered the noise floor. >>> >>> Garth >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: 12/22/2016 1:42:33 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases >>> >>>> This may be slightly off topic but only considering it because of peoples >>>> input on good performance of mixed ap mode on newer rocket prisms with the >>>> new firmwares. We have lots of 5.8 sectors with almost all nano beam m5s >>>> connected to them and have been wanting to migrate ac clients in the mix >>>> and upgrade the rockets aps to ac rocket prisms aps but waiting to pull >>>> that trigger until i saw some real world examples of mixed mode working >>>> well. So my question is if its lopsided and mostly just m5 beam clients >>>> and i migrate to ac clients as needed will the ac prism rockets aps >>>> perform just as well or better than our rocket ap m5s we currently have >>>> up? >>>> >>>> --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware >>>> Releases >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Date: 12/22/16 2:17 pm > Chris, > > Yes in our case but that was probably due to the fact that we had some > sectors with over 25 CPE, which is really more then a rocket AP can handle > when we sell 4, 6, and 10Mbps plans, although with the Prisms we now offer a > 25 Mbps plan. The second cpu on the Prism for Airmax really helps. Plus > while I can't say when it will be released, they do have GPS sync capability > (in 8.1 Alpha). > > Garth > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Frost > Sent: 12/22/2016 2:03:45 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases > >> Garth, did you see those performance improvements on the older CPE just by >> swapping the AP radio? >> >> Chris Frost >> Director of Technology and Infrastructure >> Cruzio Internet >> 831.459.6301 x235 >> >>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:01 PM, G. Nicholas <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Tyson, >>> >>> Yes, The AC Prism AP will outperform the original rocket by about 70% in >>> our opinion. We have been doing what you are asking about in our >>> Bloomington/Peoria market and the Prism's are great. We have both legacy M >>> series bridges and beams as well as new AC CPE and all are performing well. >>> We did have a few places where we also switched out the Sector Antennas to >>> RF 30deg horns which really lowered the noise floor. >>> >>> Garth >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: 12/22/2016 1:42:33 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases >>> >>>> This may be slightly off topic but only considering it because of peoples >>>> input on good performance of mixed ap mode on newer rocket prisms with the >>>> new firmwares. We have lots of 5.8 sectors with almost all nano beam m5s >>>> connected to them and have been wanting to migrate ac clients in the mix >>>> and upgrade the rockets aps to ac rocket prisms aps but waiting to pull >>>> that trigger until i saw some real world examples of mixed mode working >>>> well. So my question is if its lopsided and mostly just m5 beam clients >>>> and i migrate to ac clients as needed will the ac prism rockets aps >>>> perform just as well or better than our rocket ap m5s we currently have >>>> up? >>>> >>>> --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware >>>> Releases >>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Date: 12/22/16 2:17 pm >>>> To: "James Craig" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Ubiquiti >>>> Users Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> >>>> James >>>> is there anything I have to be worried about before upgrading my network >>>> because I am still on 5.6.9 with powerbeams,nanostation,rocket m2/m5's. >>>> >>>>> On 2016-12-22 14:14, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote: >>>>> Hi Keith, >>>>> >>>>> Sending you an email for more details. >>>>> >>>>> Also, Were these stations mostly XM based stations that wouldn't >>>>> connect, or a mix? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Keith Yoder <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We updated about 1700 radios over the weekend. Yesterday afternoon >>>>>> we sent the APs back to 5.6.9 because our phones wouldn't stop >>>>>> ringing. Symptoms where bunches of CPEs not connected. A reboot of >>>>>> the AP usually fixed things but we can't be babysitting a hundred >>>>>> APs all day long. >>>>>> >>>>>> We had been testing the beta versions from about b15 on and hadn't >>>>>> really noticed this problem. We went from RC2 to the release >>>>>> version. (we skipped RC3) >>>>>> >>>>>> Keith Yoder >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-12-22 15:27 GMT-03:00 Steve D <[email protected]>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Updating CPE first? Mike, you secretly started drinking the >>>>>> Ubuiquiti koolaid? You of all people are going to let them get away >>>>>> with shoddy QA? It's okay if new cpe are deployed one at a time are >>>>>> at or newer, but when doing a system wide upgrade, no f'n way. The >>>>>> damn things should be able to be newer or older and just connect and >>>>>> just work regardless. >>>>>> >>>>>> A stone-cold reliable updating process should be number one on their >>>>>> list. I just updated some scabby old canopy network we acquired a >>>>>> couple weeks ago from versions 6-10 years old and it just worked, no >>>>>> BS. Did the AP first. Then brought up a handful of CPE. Then the >>>>>> whole works. We don't even have addresses for all these locations >>>>>> so really didn't want to truck roll. But I trust that update >>>>>> system. >>>>>> >>>>>> A primary/secondary firmware loading system ought to get on their >>>>>> to-do list at the very least. If people can't trust the damn things >>>>>> to work without truck rolls, then people won't update firmware. >>>>>> Period. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Mike Hammett >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the clients should always be at equal or greater version >>>>>> than the AP, regardless of the platform. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions [1] >>>>>> [2] [3] [4] [5] >>>>>> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange [6] >>>>>> [7] [8] [9] >>>>>> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP [10] >>>>>> [11] [12] >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> FROM: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> TO: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> SENT: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:08:38 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases >>>>>> >>>>>> I just test it with an XM Rocket 5M. All clients on beta 15. 41 >>>>>> users online. After installation, 18 users came up. Went back to >>>>>> Beta, 41 users online again. I'm not sure if I have to make all the >>>>>> clients 6.0 first but I do know that this is exactly what we saw >>>>>> with RC3 and we had to go to a lot of houses to unload it when they >>>>>> wouldn't reconnect. We refer to that as hell week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Nick Bright >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:08 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/20/2016 9:43 AM, Kevin Lamothe wrote: >>>>>>> My experiences so far: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8.0 is stable >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 6.0 is stable running on 5GHz only. 2.4GHz and 900MHz AP/cpes will >>>>>> >>>>>>> randomly disconnect or goto sleep. 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