Garth, did you see those performance improvements on the older CPE just by 
swapping the AP radio?

Chris Frost
Director of Technology and Infrastructure
Cruzio Internet
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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:01 PM, G. Nicholas <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Tyson,
> 
> Yes, The AC Prism AP will outperform the original rocket by about 70% in our 
> opinion.  We have been doing what you are asking about in our 
> Bloomington/Peoria market and the Prism's are great. We have both legacy M 
> series bridges and beams as well as new AC CPE and all are performing well.  
> We did have a few places where we also switched out the Sector Antennas to RF 
> 30deg horns which really lowered the noise floor.
> 
> Garth
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Sent: 12/22/2016 1:42:33 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
> 
>> This may be slightly off topic but only considering it because of peoples 
>> input on good performance of mixed ap mode on newer rocket prisms with the 
>> new firmwares.  We have lots of 5.8 sectors with almost all nano beam m5s 
>> connected to them and have been wanting to migrate ac clients in the mix and 
>> upgrade the rockets aps to ac rocket prisms aps but waiting to pull that 
>> trigger until i saw some real world examples of mixed mode working well.  So 
>> my question is if its lopsided and mostly just m5 beam clients and i migrate 
>> to ac clients as needed will the ac prism rockets aps perform just as well 
>> or better than our rocket ap m5s we currently have up? 
>> 
>> --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware 
>> Releases
>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Date: 12/22/16 2:17 pm
>> To: "James Craig" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, "Ubiquiti Users 
>> Group" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> 
>> James
>> is there anything I have to be worried about before upgrading my network 
>> because I am still on 5.6.9 with powerbeams,nanostation,rocket m2/m5's.
>> 
>> On 2016-12-22 14:14, James Craig via Ubnt_users wrote:
>>> Hi Keith,
>>> 
>>> Sending you an email for more details.
>>> 
>>> Also, Were these stations mostly XM based stations that wouldn't
>>> connect, or a mix?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Keith Yoder <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We updated about 1700 radios over the weekend. Yesterday afternoon
>>>> we sent the APs back to 5.6.9 because our phones wouldn't stop
>>>> ringing. Symptoms where bunches of CPEs not connected. A reboot of
>>>> the AP usually fixed things but we can't be babysitting a hundred
>>>> APs all day long.
>>>> 
>>>> We had been testing the beta versions from about b15 on and hadn't
>>>> really noticed this problem. We went from RC2 to the release
>>>> version. (we skipped RC3)
>>>> 
>>>> Keith Yoder
>>>> 
>>>> 2016-12-22 15:27 GMT-03:00 Steve D <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>> Updating CPE first? Mike, you secretly started drinking the
>>>> Ubuiquiti koolaid? You of all people are going to let them get away
>>>> with shoddy QA? It's okay if new cpe are deployed one at a time are
>>>> at or newer, but when doing a system wide upgrade, no f'n way. The
>>>> damn things should be able to be newer or older and just connect and
>>>> just work regardless.
>>>> 
>>>> A stone-cold reliable updating process should be number one on their
>>>> list. I just updated some scabby old canopy network we acquired a
>>>> couple weeks ago from versions 6-10 years old and it just worked, no
>>>> BS. Did the AP first. Then brought up a handful of CPE. Then the
>>>> whole works. We don't even have addresses for all these locations
>>>> so really didn't want to truck roll. But I trust that update
>>>> system.
>>>> 
>>>> A primary/secondary firmware loading system ought to get on their
>>>> to-do list at the very least. If people can't trust the damn things
>>>> to work without truck rolls, then people won't update firmware.
>>>> Period.
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Mike Hammett
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I think the clients should always be at equal or greater version
>>>> than the AP, regardless of the platform.
>>>> 
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>>>> FROM: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> TO: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> SENT: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:08:38 PM
>>>> 
>>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
>>>> 
>>>> I just test it with an XM Rocket 5M. All clients on beta 15. 41
>>>> users online. After installation, 18 users came up. Went back to
>>>> Beta, 41 users online again. I'm not sure if I have to make all the
>>>> clients 6.0 first but I do know that this is exactly what we saw
>>>> with RC3 and we had to go to a lot of houses to unload it when they
>>>> wouldn't reconnect. We refer to that as hell week.
>>>> 
>>>> Rory
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> [mailto:[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Nick Bright
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:08 AM
>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Firmware Releases
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/20/2016 9:43 AM, Kevin Lamothe wrote:
>>>>> My experiences so far:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 8.0 is stable
>>>>> 
>>>>> 6.0 is stable running on 5GHz only. 2.4GHz and 900MHz AP/cpes will
>>>> 
>>>>> randomly disconnect or goto sleep. Downgrading it back to 5.6.9
>>>> fixed
>>>>> it for us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ubiquiti is reviewing some support files I sent em.
>>>> Remember kids: Just say no to dot-oh. :D
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