Had a 12 mile AF5 link that was very marginal because of distance, plus it was a bitch to align. Replaced with AF11FX on 35dB dishes and it works like a champ. Dropped them right into the AF5 mount and they linked right up and only need a tweak in alignment. I'm guessing about a 5-7 mile link is about max for an AF5 to get 8x modulation. Also, have an AF5X link at 8 miles with a 34db at the Slave end and a 30dB at the Master end and it to works great.
Phil On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: > We aligned them no side lobe here > > used alignment scope and borrowed a laser aligner from a > > Verizon friend just to make sure > > Loved that laser one but 12,000 is a little more than I can spend right > now LOL > > On 10/21/2017 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I had a 2 and 3 foot dish working with Rockets for years. Tried swapping > to af5x and couldn't even associate! > > After so much hassle back and forth etc we discovered the dishes were > misaligned. Rockets did 60 megs where af5x wouldn't associate. > > Af5x works a LOT better aligned than Rockets side lobed. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Oct 21, 2017 4:52 PM, "Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: > >> Plain old UBNT 2 foot dishes have had for years >> >> On 10/21/2017 3:49 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote: >> >> What antenna do you have with the AC? That really is the difference. >> >> Thanks, >> Ben >> >> On Oct 21, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: >> >> Yet Support says it's "Thermal Ducting" Hmm >> >> Thank Mike I finally came to the same conclusion ..... atleast for the 19 >> mile link >> >> Now just got to figure out why the 9 mile link sucks as well >> >> On 10/21/2017 3:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> The AF5 only has 23 dBi antenna. There's no way it'll work well at that >> distance. >> >> Also, you're comparing 23 dBi antennas to 29 - 31 dBi antennas. That 12 - >> 16 dB difference is most of what you're missing when comparing to the other >> link. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com> <mi...@abetterwireless.com> >> *To: *"Mike Hammett" <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> >> <wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> >> *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:05:56 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes >> >> We have installed a 22.6 mile link in Missouri that works very well the >> AF5 >> >> tried a AF5U at it never even linked up >> >> This link has been up and running for almost 3 years >> >> On 10/21/2017 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >> The AF5 just isn't meant for distance. Look at the antenna gain >> differences. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Mitch" <mi...@abetterwireless.com> <mi...@abetterwireless.com> >> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:52:53 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes >> >> Yes did discuss no resolve >> >> as well as AF5 and AF5U >> >> Installed AF5X tuned them took them out put in RM5 tuned put AF5X back in >> changed from 2 to 3 foot dish .... >> >> all this on a 9.2 mile link gave up bought AF5 and they don't work very >> well for 9.2 mile link >> >> either getting better performance from the R5C Gen 2s >> >> Have a 19.6 mile link with AF5U that sucks (-76 to -77) and the >> >> 2 foot dishes next to them with R5C Gen 2 out perform the AFs >> >> hands down RF (-56 to -60) and data >> >> But been told by support it's "Thermal Ducting" 20 dB difference >> >> units 10 feet from each other on same tower same elevation >> >> On 10/21/2017 2:43 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote: >> >> Have you discussed with support? You had them installed, but they never >> linked up? >> >> Thanks, >> Ben >> >> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote: >> >>> LOL >>> >>> I have two AF5xs that I have never gotten to link up or pass traffic >>> >>> no matter what I have done and looking they are out of warranty >>> >>> LMAO what luck >>> >>> Guess I might have to give em away >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> On 10/21/2017 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>> >>> For electrical or mechanical reasons? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2017 2:17 PM, "Clay Stewart" <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes for both, but I would put an X adapter kit on the RD-5G30 to get 45 >>>> degree polarity. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Josh >>>> Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do these Ubnt dishes work (without modification) with the af5x radio? >>>>> >>>>> RD‑5G31‑AC >>>>> RD-5G30 >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing >>> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing >> listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing > listUbnt_users@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > >
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