I am kinda nervous to spend more on the AF line even for the AF11x

After three types of AF have failed and costs so far are over 6000.00 in dishes

R5C, AFx, AF units, and AF unit shipping to return replacements that failed (2)

with in a few days ???

Kinda tired of spending and not working you know?

Mitch


On 10/21/2017 5:18 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote:
Had a 12 mile AF5 link that was very marginal because of distance, plus it was a bitch to align.  Replaced with AF11FX on 35dB dishes and it works like a champ.  Dropped them right into the AF5 mount and they linked right up and only need a tweak in alignment.  I'm guessing about a 5-7 mile link is about max for an AF5 to get 8x modulation.  Also, have an AF5X link at 8 miles with a 34db at the Slave end and a 30dB at the Master end and it to works great.

Phil

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Mitch <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    We aligned them no side lobe here

    used alignment scope and borrowed a laser aligner from a

    Verizon friend just to make sure

    Loved that laser one but 12,000 is a little more than I can spend
    right now LOL


    On 10/21/2017 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
    I had a 2 and 3 foot dish working with Rockets for years.  Tried
    swapping to af5x and couldn't even associate!

    After so much hassle back and forth etc we discovered the dishes
    were misaligned.  Rockets did 60 megs where af5x wouldn't associate.

    Af5x works a LOT better aligned than Rockets side lobed.

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Oct 21, 2017 4:52 PM, "Mitch" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Plain old UBNT 2 foot dishes have had for years


        On 10/21/2017 3:49 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote:
        What antenna do you have with the AC?  That really is the
        difference.

        Thanks,
        Ben

        On Oct 21, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mitch
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Yet Support says it's "Thermal Ducting" Hmm

        Thank Mike I finally came to the same conclusion .....
        atleast for the 19 mile link

        Now just got to figure out why the 9 mile link sucks as well


        On 10/21/2017 3:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
        The AF5 only has 23 dBi antenna. There's no way it'll work
        well at that distance.

        Also, you're comparing 23 dBi antennas to 29 - 31 dBi
        antennas. That 12 - 16 dB difference is most of what
        you're missing when comparing to the other link.



        -----
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        *From: *"Mitch" <[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *To: *"Mike Hammett" <[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:05:56 PM
        *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

        We have installed a 22.6 mile link in Missouri that works
        very well the AF5

        tried a AF5U at it never even linked up

        This link has been up and running for almost 3 years


        On 10/21/2017 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

            The AF5 just isn't meant for distance. Look at the
            antenna gain differences.


            -----
            Mike Hammett
            Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
            
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            *From: *"Mitch" <[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]>
            <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Sent: *Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:52:53 PM
            *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes

            Yes did discuss no resolve

            as well as AF5 and AF5U

            Installed AF5X tuned them took them out put in RM5
            tuned put AF5X back in changed from 2 to 3 foot dish ....

            all this on a 9.2 mile link gave up bought AF5 and
            they don't work very well for 9.2 mile link

            either getting better performance from the R5C Gen 2s

            Have a 19.6 mile link with AF5U that sucks (-76 to
            -77) and the

            2 foot dishes next to them with R5C Gen 2 out perform
            the AFs

            hands down RF (-56 to -60) and data

            But been told by support it's "Thermal Ducting" 20 dB
            difference

            units 10 feet from each other on same tower same elevation


            On 10/21/2017 2:43 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote:

                Have you discussed with support?  You had them
                installed, but they never linked up?

                Thanks,
                Ben

                On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Mitch
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    LOL

                    I have two AF5xs that I have never gotten to
                    link up or pass traffic

                    no matter what I have done and looking they
                    are out of warranty

                    LMAO what luck

                    Guess I might have to give em away

                    Mitch


                    On 10/21/2017 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

                        For electrical or mechanical reasons?

                        Josh Luthman
                        Office: 937-552-2340
                        <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
                        Direct: 937-552-2343
                        <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
                        1100 Wayne St
                        Suite 1337
                        Troy, OH 45373

                        On Oct 21, 2017 2:17 PM, "Clay Stewart"
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            Yes for both, but I would put an X
                            adapter kit on the RD-5G30 to get 45
                            degree polarity.

                            On Thu, Oct 19,        2017 at 11:39
                            AM, Josh Luthman
                            <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>>
                            wrote:

                                Do these Ubnt dishes work (without
                                modification) with the af5x radio?

                                RD‑5G31‑AC
                                RD-5G30

                                Josh Luthman
                                Office: 937-552-2340
                                <tel:%28937%29%20552-2340>
                                Direct: 937-552-2343
                                <tel:%28937%29%20552-2343>
                                1100 Wayne St
                                Suite 1337
                                Troy, OH 45373

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