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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mitch Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:44 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group; Adair Winter Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes Adair have 3 foot clear fresnel (20 feet middle) and still the AF5X wont work and the 100km AF5 and 5Us wont either so I am at a loss 40 towers and back hauls these just will not function so am not very confident in spending more on AF11x at this point. just scared lol On 10/21/2017 6:10 PM, Adair Winter wrote: We have about 40 af5x links and all of them perform as they should. You have two small of antennas for a shot that long. Need at least 3' antennas and good fresnel clearance. With proper alignment and tuning, they will kick just about any backhauls ass. On Oct 21, 2017 5:27 PM, "Mitch" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I am kinda nervous to spend more on the AF line even for the AF11x After three types of AF have failed and costs so far are over 6000.00 in dishes R5C, AFx, AF units, and AF unit shipping to return replacements that failed (2) with in a few days ??? Kinda tired of spending and not working you know? Mitch On 10/21/2017 5:18 PM, Phil Curnutt wrote: Had a 12 mile AF5 link that was very marginal because of distance, plus it was a bitch to align. Replaced with AF11FX on 35dB dishes and it works like a champ. Dropped them right into the AF5 mount and they linked right up and only need a tweak in alignment. I'm guessing about a 5-7 mile link is about max for an AF5 to get 8x modulation. Also, have an AF5X link at 8 miles with a 34db at the Slave end and a 30dB at the Master end and it to works great. Phil On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Mitch <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We aligned them no side lobe here used alignment scope and borrowed a laser aligner from a Verizon friend just to make sure Loved that laser one but 12,000 is a little more than I can spend right now LOL On 10/21/2017 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I had a 2 and 3 foot dish working with Rockets for years. Tried swapping to af5x and couldn't even associate! After so much hassle back and forth etc we discovered the dishes were misaligned. Rockets did 60 megs where af5x wouldn't associate. Af5x works a LOT better aligned than Rockets side lobed. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:%28937%29%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:%28937%29%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 21, 2017 4:52 PM, "Mitch" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Plain old UBNT 2 foot dishes have had for years On 10/21/2017 3:49 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote: What antenna do you have with the AC? That really is the difference. Thanks, Ben On Oct 21, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Mitch <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yet Support says it's "Thermal Ducting" Hmm Thank Mike I finally came to the same conclusion ..... atleast for the 19 mile link Now just got to figure out why the 9 mile link sucks as well On 10/21/2017 3:07 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: The AF5 only has 23 dBi antenna. There's no way it'll work well at that distance. Also, you're comparing 23 dBi antennas to 29 - 31 dBi antennas. That 12 - 16 dB difference is most of what you're missing when comparing to the other link. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Mitch" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> To: "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:05:56 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes We have installed a 22.6 mile link in Missouri that works very well the AF5 tried a AF5U at it never even linked up This link has been up and running for almost 3 years On 10/21/2017 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: The AF5 just isn't meant for distance. Look at the antenna gain differences. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ________________________________ From: "Mitch" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:52:53 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5x radio on dishes Yes did discuss no resolve as well as AF5 and AF5U Installed AF5X tuned them took them out put in RM5 tuned put AF5X back in changed from 2 to 3 foot dish .... all this on a 9.2 mile link gave up bought AF5 and they don't work very well for 9.2 mile link either getting better performance from the R5C Gen 2s Have a 19.6 mile link with AF5U that sucks (-76 to -77) and the 2 foot dishes next to them with R5C Gen 2 out perform the AFs hands down RF (-56 to -60) and data But been told by support it's "Thermal Ducting" 20 dB difference units 10 feet from each other on same tower same elevation On 10/21/2017 2:43 PM, Ben Moore via Ubnt_users wrote: Have you discussed with support? You had them installed, but they never linked up? Thanks, Ben On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Mitch <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: LOL I have two AF5xs that I have never gotten to link up or pass traffic no matter what I have done and looking they are out of warranty LMAO what luck Guess I might have to give em away Mitch On 10/21/2017 1:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: For electrical or mechanical reasons? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:%28937%29%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:%28937%29%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 21, 2017 2:17 PM, "Clay Stewart" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yes for both, but I would put an X adapter kit on the RD-5G30 to get 45 degree polarity. On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Do these Ubnt dishes work (without modification) with the af5x radio? 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