Yes if your distro is Ubuntu based it is in the apt archives.
Would enjoy chatting with you on IRC sometime about your project.
cheers
Rob


On 02/04/16 08:30, Don Raikes wrote:
> Hi rob,
>
> I haven't ever heard of it can I get it from apt?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Whyte [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 2:26 PM
> To: ubuntu-accessibility
> Subject: Re: gnome shell versus mate
>
> Have you tried installing classicmenu-indicator?
>
> On 02/04/16 08:18, Don Raikes wrote:
>> I am just used to the old menu-driven approach and whenever I try to do 
>> something I can't find it in gnome.
>>
>> I am working on a security-based debian derivative named kalilinux, and I 
>> don't know all the tools so it would be helpful to have the menus to guide 
>> me into knowing the various tools and their general functions.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Whyte [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 12:43 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: gnome shell versus mate
>>
>> Hi,
>> What frustrates you about Gnome Don?
>> cheers
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On 02/04/16 03:30, Don Raikes wrote:
>>> I have been frustrated with gnome-shell for a while now and want to go back 
>>> to mate.
>>> I downloaded the ubuntu-mate-15.10 desktop iso and have tried installing it 
>>> in a vmware virtual machine, but once it is installed I can't get sound 
>>> working on it at all.
>>>
>>> I tried with a variety of configurations over the last couple of days but 
>>> nothing seems to work.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: kendell clark [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 6:41 AM
>>> To: Daniel Crone; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: gnome shell versus mate
>>>
>>> hi
>>> Being objective is a little difficult, since I've switched back to mate, 
>>> but i'll give it a shot. Hear goes.
>>> Gnome is great if you don't want to have a customized panel with different 
>>> applets on it. The gnome panel is set and can't be changed easily. It 
>>> requires an extension or gsettings keys to do so.
>>>
>>> As a resultt, once you learn where everything is it won't ever change.
>>> This is an advantage if you just want to run your apps and not have to go 
>>> looking for stuff on the panel. On the other hand, gnome has taken out a 
>>> lot of functionality that mate, being a fork of gnome 2 before all this 
>>> stuff was removed, has. In gnome, you can't select a different sound theme 
>>> than the default except by using gsettings.
>>>
>>> You can't create your own desktop icons, and removing a drive through the 
>>> gui is buried in nautilus. Whether you care about this stuff mostly depends 
>>> on what you do with your computer. Mate is much lighter on resources, which 
>>> won't matter unless you have a computer that gnome doesn't run well on. On 
>>> the other hand, mate's panels can be very odd with orca, sometimes getting 
>>> stuck and requiring a reset of orca or the panel to fix things.
>>>
>>> Mate is a lot more configurable, but has the disadvantage of not being able 
>>> to run apps as root accessibly. At least for now. This is being worked on 
>>> right now and should be fixed shortly. Mate has a nice menu system, with 
>>> apps organized into categories. Sound and video, office, etc. You can't 
>>> search for apps like you can in gnome, to find them you have to use the 
>>> menus or add them to the desktop.
>>>
>>> You can of course create keyboard shortcuts to launch them and so on. I 
>>> can't tell you which is better because each one is preferred by different 
>>> people. But mate tends to be better on computers that don't have a lot of 
>>> power or memory. Gnome has more desktop effects and can search, but has a 
>>> lot of the more advanced functionality removed. It's really up to you, in 
>>> the end.
>>> Thanks
>>> Kendell Clark
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel Crone wrote:
>>>> Hello.  I am curious about the advantages of gnome shell over mate, or 
>>>> vice versa.
>>>> What do you think?
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