aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think. cc) same as aa) ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has a sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which has excellent Ubuntu support.
Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill! 2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <[email protected]>: > Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :) > > Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we need, it is > us. Also Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear > expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent disappointment from and > by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit > too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively involved > and able to help. > > Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and I've got no > clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we need to get together or at > least get visual. For getting together there is the hacker space, the > facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there > an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting maybe > (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we organise a chat/video > conference from the 'local' events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace, > Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie. > every last Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the > gathering date already)? > > > 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can plan > ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved > including this chap > 2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed make > it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda showing > the local activities for example > 3) What information would you want to see on the new website? Haven't > really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to see and > that is UP TO DATE information > > Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank account > quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one that we can access and > at least have some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again. > > I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would really be good if > we could talk to each other, preferably face to face. This way we iterate > in seconds rather than weeks. > > Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and strengthened. I > work for a large company and quite a large bunch is starting to use Ubuntu > also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great idea and has huge potential, > especially for cost savings. I checked how I could get our purchasing in > contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not going to sell the idea if > they stick to how they have approached this up to now. I would think, > certainly in Europe, they have a wide enough network of enthusiasts and > could easily bundle the network to get aggressive into offering savings to > large and medium size companies. As far as I'm concerned I use the software > that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation that binds us - the reason > why I spend my time locally to help people is for ubuntu, and also as a > kind of payback to Canonical because they have created a magnificent piece > of software. Not only them, but they are for me one of the main forces > behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth for all that. Taking > Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem the best way to help and show a > kind of gratitude. > > Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to this point. > How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get this going. > 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again > 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot > pick up; > a) kawabill > b) nero > c) Frank Neirynck > d) Tom Verlinden > e) Jan Bongaerts > f) Merlijn Sebrechts > g) Alain Daudrez > 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying > 4) Temporary fix; > aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?) > bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one I can pick > up the action and can have it done within two weeks, with regards to the > old one whom can get the responsible person to help organize it such that > we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?) > cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update or allow for > updated information (whom can take action and when?) > dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail where I can > come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage) > ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th), we can use > Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help build Open Meeting for > Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help setup the > technical side of it all, Nero???) > > Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and when need > please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really good at using Drupal, > I've build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and updating. > > Your comments please? > > Bill > > > > On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote: > > Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain > "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't > take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading, > for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of > somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does > that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it > too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be > fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said. > Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess. > Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <[email protected] > >: > >> Tom, >> >> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person actually >> kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of these >> people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what >> (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever >> Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc... >> >> If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will quickly >> have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you do a >> great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll be doing >> Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical figure called >> "somebody" we're all talking about and who'll do all the practical stuff >> like maintain the website, organise event booths, create content, etc... >> isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was. >> >> Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval is >> not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here >> will be able to tell you more details on this. >> >> Grtz, >> Jurgen. >> >> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote: >> >> I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.be could >> be a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more in a >> fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you get >> the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman imho. >> Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble opinion, >> to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we could get >> more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk >> about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested, give support >> where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on ubuntu. >> Woot!!) >> I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little >> "islands", and use the net, list as our "glue", who knows what can happen >> in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How does that >> work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a chance. What do >> you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just leave, and do something >> on our own? (I think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear >> your opinion). My 2 cents.... >> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <[email protected]>: >> >>> What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community, >>> stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I >>> had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page; >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings >>> >>> No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages it >>> seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities are still >>> going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for me it is >>> not visible whether all of this is coordinated. >>> >>> I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I don't >>> see any coordinated activity to get people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux >>> camp. >>> >>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm wrong and >>> I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the Ubuntu community? >>> >>> Have a nice day. >>> Bill >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >> >> > > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > >
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