Bill's proposal looks mighty fine to me. I'll get my thinking cap on and see what i an come up with. Anybody having a problem with bill's proposal? Op 2 mei 2014 06:36 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" <[email protected]>:
> I think any of the hackerspaces will be willing to accomodate... people > living near train stations on our group might too... > > Possibly I can't be available myself (wife is pregnant and due for June > 4th) but I'm pretty sure Hackerspace Brussels (hackerspace.be) would be > glad to offer you a chair in the space or the garden... > > Grtz, > Jurgen. > > On 01-05-14 23:08, Jan Bongaerts wrote: > > Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting, if > you ask me. > It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were > all successful. > Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport. > Brussels is the best. > Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option. > > > > On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <[email protected]>wrote: > >> aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If >> somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at it next >> week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think. >> cc) same as aa) >> ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody has a >> sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org, which has >> excellent Ubuntu support. >> >> >> >> Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill! >> >> >> >> >> 2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <[email protected]>: >> >> Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :) >>> >>> Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we need, it is >>> us. Also Juergen's proposal for having Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear >>> expectations I agree with, this way we can prevent disappointment from and >>> by others. Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit >>> too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are actively involved >>> and able to help. >>> >>> Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and I've got no >>> clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we need to get together or at >>> least get visual. For getting together there is the hacker space, the >>> facilities in Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there >>> an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual meeting maybe >>> (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we organise a chat/video >>> conference from the 'local' events; Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace, >>> Brugge - can we organize it maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie. >>> every last Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the >>> gathering date already)? >>> >>> >>> 1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if we can >>> plan ahead I would think we can get the right and motivated people involved >>> including this chap >>> 2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's indeed >>> make it such that people see activity - starting with filling the agenda >>> showing the local activities for example >>> 3) What information would you want to see on the new website? Haven't >>> really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I would like to see and >>> that is UP TO DATE information >>> >>> Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank account >>> quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one that we can access and >>> at least have some kind of redundancy. This as not to get stuck again. >>> >>> I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would really be good >>> if we could talk to each other, preferably face to face. This way we >>> iterate in seconds rather than weeks. >>> >>> Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and strengthened. >>> I work for a large company and quite a large bunch is starting to use >>> Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu Phone is a great idea and has huge >>> potential, especially for cost savings. I checked how I could get our >>> purchasing in contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not going to >>> sell the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to now. I >>> would think, certainly in Europe, they have a wide enough network of >>> enthusiasts and could easily bundle the network to get aggressive into >>> offering savings to large and medium size companies. As far as I'm >>> concerned I use the software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation >>> that binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help people is >>> for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to Canonical because they have >>> created a magnificent piece of software. Not only them, but they are for me >>> one of the main forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth >>> for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem the best way >>> to help and show a kind of gratitude. >>> >>> Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to this >>> point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and get this going. >>> 1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again >>> 2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees or cannot >>> pick up; >>> a) kawabill >>> b) nero >>> c) Frank Neirynck >>> d) Tom Verlinden >>> e) Jan Bongaerts >>> f) Merlijn Sebrechts >>> g) Alain Daudrez >>> 3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying >>> 4) Temporary fix; >>> aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?) >>> bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one I can pick >>> up the action and can have it done within two weeks, with regards to the >>> old one whom can get the responsible person to help organize it such that >>> we have multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?) >>> cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update or allow >>> for updated information (whom can take action and when?) >>> dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail where I can >>> come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage) >>> ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th), we can use >>> Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help build Open Meeting for >>> Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and coordinating, whom can help setup the >>> technical side of it all, Nero???) >>> >>> Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and when need >>> please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really good at using Drupal, >>> I've build my own in HTML, but I sure could help cleaning up and updating. >>> >>> Your comments please? >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> >>> On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this certain >>> "somebody" should comprise out of more than one person. One person can't >>> take this on his or her shoulders. There's too much, from what i'm reading, >>> for one person to do and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of >>> somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different locations. (Does >>> that make sense?) Is there a need for a central organ? To me that makes it >>> too complicated already, and might create expectations, that cannot be >>> fullfilled. Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill said. >>> Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way, i guess. >>> Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn" < >>> [email protected]>: >>> >>>> Tom, >>>> >>>> the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single person actually >>>> kept his shoulders under the project. In the past we had a few of these >>>> people. Thing is: ubuntu-be.org should set clear expectations: what >>>> (not) to expect: a spokesman, the official stance of Ubuntu on whatever >>>> Belgian activity, guaranteed support, etc... >>>> >>>> If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership, you will >>>> quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5 and 10 or even more if you >>>> do a great job. If you're willing to take up this commitment, you'll be >>>> doing Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this mythical figure >>>> called "somebody" we're all talking about and who'll do all the practical >>>> stuff like maintain the website, organise event booths, create content, >>>> etc... isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was. >>>> >>>> Please, do give it a chance. First things first - canonical approval is >>>> not a problem if you can prove you're active. I'm assuming someone here >>>> will be able to tell you more details on this. >>>> >>>> Grtz, >>>> Jurgen. >>>> >>>> On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe ubuntu.becould be >>>> a commonplace for those using and or discovering ubuntu but more >>>> in a fun sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i think you >>>> get the picture. There doesn't need to be a central person or spokesman >>>> imho. Makes it far too official. The first goal should be, in my humble >>>> opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by promoting this list we >>>> could get more people discovering the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use >>>> ubuntu, talk about it and show it to whoever i think might be interrested, >>>> give support where i can and drop leaflets in our library. (They're also on >>>> ubuntu. Woot!!) >>>> I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on our little >>>> "islands", and use the net, list as our "glue", who knows what can happen >>>> in the future? Is there still a connection with canonical? How does that >>>> work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give this a chance. What do >>>> you guys think? Give it some kind of try, or just leave, and do something >>>> on our own? (I think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to hear >>>> your opinion). My 2 cents.... >>>> Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill" <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in the community, >>>>> stating that he rather spent his time otherwise, declining an invitation I >>>>> had sent him. No problem of course, but it took me to the following page; >>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings >>>>> >>>>> No activities are visible for me the visitor, going over the pages it >>>>> seems that the latest info dates from 2012. I know activities are still >>>>> going on, organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but for me it is >>>>> not visible whether all of this is coordinated. >>>>> >>>>> I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of lifes XP I don't >>>>> see any coordinated activity to get people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux >>>>> camp. >>>>> >>>>> Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let me know I'm wrong >>>>> and I seem to live life on a desolate space outside of the Ubuntu >>>>> community? >>>>> >>>>> Have a nice day. >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] >>>> >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] >>> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >>> >>> >> >> -- >> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] >> >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be >> >> > > > -- > Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? > Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ and find out why it is a better > option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accommodate a newer version > of your current system. > > > > > -- > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:[email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be > >
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