Real life meeting should still take preference over virtual meeting,
if you ask me.
It's not all that hard to organise. Jurgen did it, I did it. They were
all successful.
Just get to somewhere easily accessible by public transport.
Brussels is the best.
Antwerp or Ghent might be a good option.
On 1 May 2014 22:51, Merlijn Sebrechts <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
aa) I can help with the website. I now a tiny bit of Drupal. If
somebody can give me the right credentials, I could take a look at
it next week. Mike Morraye knows more about the website, I think.
cc) same as aa)
ee) I think Google Hangouts is the best free option. If somebody
has a sip server, we could also use a sip client like jitsi.org
<http://jitsi.org>, which has excellent Ubuntu support.
Thanks for doing this wake-up call, kawabill!
2014-05-01 21:40 GMT+02:00 kawabill <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hey I'm not alone on the island....! :)
Tom, you're right I think and I agree. It is not somebody we
need, it is us. Also Juergen's proposal for having
Ubuntu-be.org and setting clear expectations I agree with,
this way we can prevent disappointment from and by others.
Carrying Ubuntu-be to the funeral I would think is just a bit
too early. From the reactions, at least 5-10 people are
actively involved and able to help.
Using IRC is maybe just a little too much written words and
I've got no clue how to get it to work reliably, I think we
need to get together or at least get visual. For getting
together there is the hacker space, the facilities in
Houthalen an hack - even an old school room in Bree. Is there
an open source alternative to Skype, allowing for a virtual
meeting maybe (I saw Apache's Open Meeting)? Or what if we
organise a chat/video conference from the 'local' events;
Houthalen in Limburg, Hackerspace, Brugge - can we organize it
maybe in such a way that it's all in sync; ie. every last
Wednesday of the month (convenient for LImburg, as this is the
gathering date already)?
1) Do you want to help set up a booth at fosdem 2015? YES, if
we can plan ahead I would think we can get the right and
motivated people involved including this chap
2) Do you still use the website? If so, how? YES, but let's
indeed make it such that people see activity - starting with
filling the agenda showing the local activities for example
3) What information would you want to see on the new website?
Haven't really given it a thought, but one thing for sure I
would like to see and that is UP TO DATE information
Let's keep the ideas coming, I think getting around the bank
account quickly is indeed opening a new one, and make it one
that we can access and at least have some kind of redundancy.
This as not to get stuck again.
I have to read and negotiate contracts all day, it would
really be good if we could talk to each other, preferably face
to face. This way we iterate in seconds rather than weeks.
Finally; let's get the link into Canonical established and
strengthened. I work for a large company and quite a large
bunch is starting to use Ubuntu also on the desktop. Ubuntu
Phone is a great idea and has huge potential, especially for
cost savings. I checked how I could get our purchasing in
contact easily, but believe me, Canonical is not going to sell
the idea if they stick to how they have approached this up to
now. I would think, certainly in Europe, they have a wide
enough network of enthusiasts and could easily bundle the
network to get aggressive into offering savings to large and
medium size companies. As far as I'm concerned I use the
software that they have ubuntu-ed, it is this creation that
binds us - the reason why I spend my time locally to help
people is for ubuntu, and also as a kind of payback to
Canonical because they have created a magnificent piece of
software. Not only them, but they are for me one of the main
forces behind humanizing Linux! Credit to Mark Shuttleworth
for all that. Taking Ubuntu-be to the graveyard doesn't seem
the best way to help and show a kind of gratitude.
Too many words written already, and hail to he/she who came to
this point. How to go forward? Let's use 8D methodology and
get this going.
1) Plan - revive Ubuntu-be and prevent it from going quiet again
2) The core-team members proposed, let me know who disagrees
or cannot pick up;
a) kawabill
b) nero
c) Frank Neirynck
d) Tom Verlinden
e) Jan Bongaerts
f) Merlijn Sebrechts
g) Alain Daudrez
3) The problem; Ubuntu-be is dying
4) Temporary fix;
aa) website is not upto date (whom can take action and when?)
bb) bank account needs to be corrected (to open a new one
I can pick up the action and can have it done within two
weeks, with regards to the old one whom can get the
responsible person to help organize it such that we have
multiple Ubuntu-ers to get access and when?)
cc) support point map - remove ghost accounts and update
or allow for updated information (whom can take action and when?)
dd) Limburg event box - Wouter, please drop me an e-mail
where I can come and pick it up and get it into my storage garage)
ee) Setup a web-meeting last Wednesday of May (May 28th),
we can use Skype, Google hangout or maybe someone can help
build Open Meeting for Ubuntu (I don't mind planning and
coordinating, whom can help setup the technical side of it
all, Nero???)
Let's get this going before we start root-cause analysis, and
when need please team up where you can. Myself I'm not really
good at using Drupal, I've build my own in HTML, but I sure
could help cleaning up and updating.
Your comments please?
Bill
On 01-05-14 12:39, tom verlinden wrote:
Thanks for your info on this. I've always thought that this
certain "somebody" should comprise out of more than one
person. One person can't take this on his or her shoulders.
There's too much, from what i'm reading, for one person to do
and be succesfull about it. There should be a team of
somebodies, all doing somewhat the same, but in different
locations. (Does that make sense?) Is there a need for a
central organ? To me that makes it too complicated already,
and might create expectations, that cannot be fullfilled.
Anyway, there's need, i guess to promote ubuntu, as Bill
said. Now we have to figure out how to do this in a fun way,
i guess.
Op 1 mei 2014 12:27 schreef "Jurgen Gaeremyn"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
Tom,
the strongest periods of Ubuntu-be were when one single
person actually kept his shoulders under the project. In
the past we had a few of these people. Thing is:
ubuntu-be.org <http://ubuntu-be.org> should set clear
expectations: what (not) to expect: a spokesman, the
official stance of Ubuntu on whatever Belgian activity,
guaranteed support, etc...
If someone stands up and is prepared to take leadership,
you will quickly have a core team of somewhere between 5
and 10 or even more if you do a great job. If you're
willing to take up this commitment, you'll be doing
Ubuntu-be a big favour. Problem is, apparently this
mythical figure called "somebody" we're all talking about
and who'll do all the practical stuff like maintain the
website, organise event booths, create content, etc...
isn't on this list anymore. Not sure if he ever was.
Please, do give it a chance. First things first -
canonical approval is not a problem if you can prove
you're active. I'm assuming someone here will be able to
tell you more details on this.
Grtz,
Jurgen.
On 01-05-14 12:11, tom verlinden wrote:
I don't know about organizing a funeral just yet. Maybe
ubuntu.be <http://ubuntu.be> could be a commonplace for
those using and or discovering ubuntu but more in a fun
sort of way. Don't know if i'm saying this right, but i
think you get the picture. There doesn't need to be a
central person or spokesman imho. Makes it far too
official. The first goal should be, in my humble
opinion, to get people to discover ubuntu. Maybe by
promoting this list we could get more people discovering
the os. As far as i'm concerned, i use ubuntu, talk
about it and show it to whoever i think might be
interrested, give support where i can and drop leaflets
in our library. (They're also on ubuntu. Woot!!)
I think that if we do our part any wich way we can, on
our little "islands", and use the net, list as our
"glue", who knows what can happen in the future? Is
there still a connection with canonical? How does that
work? Hell, typing this gets me all fired up to give
this a chance. What do you guys think? Give it some kind
of try, or just leave, and do something on our own? (I
think we could achieve more together, but i'd like to
hear your opinion). My 2 cents....
Op 30 apr. 2014 07:30 schreef "kawabill"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
What triggered me was a mail I got from someone in
the community, stating that he rather spent his time
otherwise, declining an invitation I had sent him.
No problem of course, but it took me to the
following page;
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BelgianTeam/IrcMeetings
No activities are visible for me the visitor, going
over the pages it seems that the latest info dates
from 2012. I know activities are still going on,
organized by enthusiasts on a very local scale, but
for me it is not visible whether all of this is
coordinated.
I find it a pity, that in the period where MS end of
lifes XP I don't see any coordinated activity to get
people over into the Ubuntu/Mint/Linux camp.
Can anyone please comment and give feedback or let
me know I'm wrong and I seem to live life on a
desolate space outside of the Ubuntu community?
Have a nice day.
Bill
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