On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: > That allegation of anti-Canonical bias is why I made [1] and > highlighted the Canonical employees. If there's an anti-Canonical > bias, I still don't see it, what with 20% of non-Canonical applicants > being rejected and only 11% of Canonical applicants being rejected.
Having been part of the meetings where these noisy rejections were made, talking in the private RMB channel, sometimes voting on these rejections or weighing in (I tend to not vote on Canonical applicants) and also being a Canonical employee, I can express without hesitation that there isn't a single thread of evidence that there is _any_ Canonical bias, for or against. I do share the feeling that we've had a few instances of Canonical employees para-shooting into membership without a clear understanding of what that meant or what it was for beyond "getting an @ubuntu.com email address". I don't know about others, but I hold Canonical employees to a higher standard, high enough to understand what they are doing and why. They have more than enough of the right people around them on a daily basis to be able to apply properly. Again, I don't think there is *any* bias for or against Canonical, I think the core of the issue is a lack of understanding of how the community process works and sometimes a lack of sensitivity to the mis-alignment of the goals of certain teams with the process. There's also the outstanding issue around what is upstream contributions or what is a contribution to Ubuntu, Canonical being in a special place in the middle and there's some friction that needs working out. Clearing this up in the CC will help a bit, but I feel the overall solution is cultural rather than procedural. Knowing that there isn't any bad intentions on either side, I share the feeling that we get Canonical employees trying to rush through the process, and when that gets pushed back on, some key people who walk the Canonical/Ubuntu line make it worse by publicly undermining the process. That is not helping maintain a healthy relationship between community and employees. -- Martin -- ubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
