Exactly, in the USA there are unlimited SMS but in other countries there aren't. In Italy for example if an operator give 200/month is a great deal. I think that the XMPP approach is more useful, because (almost) free 3G/4G data access is more reliable and easy to use. Il giorno 17/lug/2013 20:57, "Josh Leverette" <[email protected]> ha scritto:
> I didn't say linking. Just breaking it up and sending them out. It's the > user's choice. Encrypting it won't make it take up more space necessarily. > If the user wants to send that many messages, they can. In a number of > countries, SMS is unlimited. Here in the United States, all of the > companies essentially gave up on charging for each message. It really is > absolutely free for the cell company, and once one of them started offering > unlimited SMS, none of the others could do any less and be competitive. > Doing an XMPP system would work too, but that requires having a data > connection, which should always be more expensive than SMS, realistically. > I'm fine with it being XMPP, but the advantage of using SMS is that it > works even when you barely have any signal, and SMS is dirt cheap compared > to data, at least here in the United States. I can't speak about the rest > of the world, but SMS as a technology is infinitely cheaper. Whether the > company chooses to charge appropriately, that's up to them. > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Rasmus Eneman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Linking SMS cost money, you have to pay for every SMS. Also I'm pretty >> sure you only can link up to 4 SMSes. >> However an XMPP based service would still be better as key exchange may >> happen automagically. You have >> already broken the standard so why continue to use it when you only gets >> its limitations? >> >> >> 2013/7/17 Josh Leverette <[email protected]> >> >>> Also, I don't see why encrypting SMS would be impossible. You don't send >>> encrypted SMS to people who can't decrypt them. Since we're talking about >>> asymmetric encryption anyways, then the only people *you could even >>> think* *of* sending encrypted SMS to are people for whom you have a >>> public key. If you don't have a public key for a contact, then obviously >>> you have no method of encrypting a message to them. But, more importantly, >>> you can always break up an SMS into multiple SMS as the need arises, so >>> length isn't an issue as long as the user knows how many messages it will >>> form. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Mike Bybee <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Well, SMS obviously can't do GPG due to character limits - however, >>>> there are dozens of varieties of secure SMS tools currently on Android. It >>>> seems that some variety encryption could be supported by the default client >>>> - much like OTR for Pidgin, etc. >>>> Not that it should default to it - that would be awful. But that it >>>> should be able to have an easy to enable option. >>>> >>>> There's a lot of people world wide mad about security right now - and >>>> if Ubuntu Touch can eventually ship with a good basic set of security >>>> options, it will appeal to people who otherwise might have no reason to use >>>> it. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Rasmus Eneman <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> You can't have GPG on SMS as it can't handle that amount of >>>>> characters. Also it would be stupid >>>>> as no one can't receive GPG/PGP SMS. If this feature is realy wanted >>>>> on Ubuntu to Ubuntu >>>>> then implementing something like iMessage or Hangouts should be done >>>>> using XMPP and bound >>>>> to the Ubuntu One account. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/7/17 Mike Bybee <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. I think with PRISM and it's various world-wide equivalents, >>>>>> we're all thinking about this. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Josh Leverette >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm still waiting on the actual native email client to be written. >>>>>>> Once that happens, adding encryption should be relatively trivial. So, >>>>>>> whenever that happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike Bybee <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there currently any plans to make sure the ubuntu mail app >>>>>>>> will support gpg or some other standard - and likewise for SMS? >>>>>>>> I know right now it just uses webmail, but I'm sure that's not the >>>>>>>> long term goal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Mike Bybee >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Mike Bybee >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rasmus Eneman >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thanks, >>>> Mike Bybee >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Josh >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Rasmus Eneman >> > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Josh > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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