Kasangwawo
Coming from a prominent family does not guarantee having an ability to
poses a computer, and I have seen very many you will not be the first. So
throw that excuse out. I use the name Mulindwa because that is my name from
day one, I have all Toronto to witness that it is my name ask any one of
them in the forum for I have nothing to hide. Apparently even the majority
know even where I live, again for I have nothing to hide. So do not doubt
me, get any netter in Toronto at your own choosing and ask him/her, who is
Mulindwa and they will tell you that we know him.
Kasangwawo which netter in this forum can witness that he/she knows you as
Mr. Kasangwawo?
Any Ugandan who lives in your city and will verify that you are surely Mr.
Kasangwawo?
You came into a forum with a fake name and you not only expect us to believe
what you post as God's truth but you have as well gained a rank of attacking
Ugandans. That is unacceptable. What I posted was not threats, Kasangwawo
how many netters are in these forums, why not Lutimba Matovu, why not
Vukoni, why not Matekopoko, Or Yaobang why did I pin point you?
It is good that you have publicly stated that you do not know for a fact
that Chris Opoka was in Luwero, now what a gentleman does he apologise the
crap you have been feeding in the forum, and that goes for Ssemakula. Now
let us consider this case closed for I know both of you will do the only
right thing you have to do. The people we have in Toronto if they did any
crimes to Ugandans we surely will not keep them and of all people you should
know that when you come into this city when you are wrong we expose you for
we have done that before and not once. But one thing we do not do, we do not
attack people's character for we have a political difference, we fight that
politically. But what you did here was to run all over the place looking for
any body to be responsible for the failures of your country, one day it is
Obote the other day it is Akena then it goes to Chris Opoka on and on. One
challenge that has stood so far is what are the facts? And you have lost in
all of them my friend with a made name.
Lastly yes I had to be incensed by Opoka's issue for he was not the first
person to be attacked with these statements we must believe with out asking
questions, you remember the ones where "Obote said a good Muganda is a dead
one"? All you want to do is to make some allegation and you think people
against
who you make the allegations must be the ones to deny it!! Why should they
waste time on some of you guys who only post crap and act as killer Museveni
agents
on the net to provoke his opponents. It is interesting that every year when
Mr. Opoka comes with serious issues about our country, NRM agents come out
with the
Ghost of Luwero. Sometime ago it was Ronald Mugisha another fake name like
you. Last year it was Phil Mwebesa another fake name like you and an agent
of NRM.
Some of us are tired and we feel that we have a country with serious
problems and we need serious solutions, we think that we have sat on the
peripheral when
we are listening over and over of how Nakulabye was attacked and people died
about 40 years ago so we must spend all our adult life crying about that
incidence. Or we must be good Ugandans who must support groups like
Federalism, which have now clearly demonstrated that they are not
nationalistic organisations. No. Our kids are growing up and fast, we want
to die when our kids have a right to go to Uganda and stay, we want to be
able to have a country
which reads a budget when it can finance at least 80% of it. So keeping on
looking for any body to complain about is a no go. And trust me if you had
attacked another Ugandan I would have still come in.
Good Evening Sir. (What ever your right name is)
Em
The Mulindwas communication group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
----- Original Message -----
From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: What was life like during Obote I?
> Mulindwa,
>
> stop your pretences ! I'm not scared of your threats. You neither know me
> nor do I know you. Just because you use the name 'Mulindwa' does not mean
> that other netters also use false names. If the name Kasangwawo is new to
> you, too bad, but this doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.If, as you say,
I
> was from such "a prominent family in Uganda", I wonder why I would be
> borrowing the computer from a Nakyewombekedde as you claimed in one of
your
> previous rantings. This is but just another of your usual speculations - a
> distraction tactic.
>
> But back to the issue. I don't know for a fact that Chris Opoka was in
> Luwero and I never claimed I did. This is exactly what some of us were
> trying to find out. Still, he has never denied that he was - something
that
> you were falsely attributing to him. So, as things stand, the allegation
> from one netter still stands.
>
> I don't give a damn whether you know Chris Opoka or where he lives. This
is
> beside the point. I also don't care whether you have "former majors and
> captains and DC's" in Toronto. If they are known to have killed innocent
> civilians, I don't want anything to do with them.
>
> Who are you to tell me to shut up and why are you so incensed about
Opoka's
> issue ? Could it be that you know something that we don't ?
> Why is it you, Mulindwa, speaking on behalf of Opoka ?
>
> Kasangwawo
>
>
> >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: What was life like during Obote I?
> >Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:07:23 -0400
> >
> >Kasangwawo
> >
> >Do you know for a fact that Chris Opoka was in Luwero and he is
responsible
> >for killing Ugandans? This is a straight question, and if it is just one
of
> >your Mmumbo Jumbo in the forum trying to feed on spoiling people's names
> >say
> >so. But if you have no facts about the man shut up.
> >
> >This is really getting on my nerves. And let me say this, that I know
Chris
> >Opoka, I know where he lives and he has never hidden his identity what so
> >ever. But few days ago I found out that the person who uses the name
> >Kasangwawo is from a prominent family in Uganda. This family has no name
of
> >Kasangwawo what so ever. Then the right question becomes why are you
> >calling
> >your self Kasangwawo and not your real name, you a man who is right in
the
> >face of Ugandans? We are in exile and among us are people who worked in
> >previous governments right from the colonial era. Many of them if not all
> >we
> >know, but in Toronto we have former majors and captains and DC's. This is
a
> >country which recognises the law to the extent that war crimes are being
> >taken to court to people who are 80 years plus. But these have to be
facts
> >not warming up our mouths when ever we loose a topic to post on
Ugandanet.
> >So why do we have Ugandans who have a chance to be on Ugandanet and who
> >live
> >under the cover of names like Kasangwawo to belittle other members?
> >Kasangwawo who exactly are you hiding from to call your self your real
> >name?
> >What did you do in Uganda and in Luwero to be specific?
> >
> >I saw this stupidity rampanting in Uganda about Paul Muwanga, he was
> >arrested and sent to Luzira, how many cases was he found guilty of?
> >These are very strange days indeed. And Kasangwawo fight my comments
about
> >your using a hidden name and I will surprise the hell out of your pants.
> >Em
> > The Mulindwas communication group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 12:16 PM
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: What was life like during Obote I?
> >
> >
> >Mulindwa,
> >
> >about Opoka you say: "He denied he ever was in Luwero."
> >
> >No, he NEVER did.
> >
> >Kasangwawo
> >
> > >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: ugnet_: What was life like during Obote I?
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 22:08:30 -0400
> > >
> > >Omukadde Semakula,
> > >
> > >You and some netters have made an allegation that Mr. Opoka was the
Head
> >of
> > >Military Intelligence and that his activities in Luwero during Obote's
> > >times are well known. You of course want people to believe that he
> > >participated personally in Luwero massacres. These are very serious
> > >allegations. He responded that the head of military evidence was well
> >known
> > >and he referred you to the Director of Records in UPDF. He denied he
ever
> > >was in Luwero. Now you are talking of Gestapo almost comparing MI in
> > >Obote's time to Gestapo.
> > >
> > >Just like you have compared Obote's times in 1960 with Museveni's now
on
> > >the question of the press by producing evidence in the form of a letter
> > >from a victim, Neogy.
> > >
> > >Before I asked you to produce evidence from the victims of Opoka, can
you
> > >first produce any evidence at all of any writing about the wrong doings
> >of
> > >military intelliengence written between 1981 and 1985 when Obote 11
> > >government was in power? Anything from newspapers in Uganda, Amnesty
> > >International, Human Rights Watch, Churches? Surely if this man was the
> > >head of Military Intelligence and Military Intelligence was like
Gestapo,
> > >the evidence should be at finger tips!! Was he even mentioned in the
> > >Reports of the Commission of Inquiry on Human Rights Abuse in Uganda
from
> > >1962 to 1985?
> > >
> > >The danger I am seeing in your allegations is your credibility and that
> >of
> > >your cronies being at stake. Otherwise your witch-hunt may turn to
haunt
> > >you for making allegations driven mainly by your political dislike of a
> > >fellow Ugandan. Mwaami Ssemakula all I am asking for is a back up of
your
> > >allegations, for as Ugandans I think we are entitled to it. And now
that
> > >you are making them on forums I am not a member, please forward my
> >concerns
> > >to you accordingly.
> > >But be well.
> > >Em
> > > The Mulindwas communication group
> > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: J Ssemakula
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 7:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: ugnet_: What was life like during Obote I?
> > >
> > >
> > > Mr. Potosi Netters,
> > >
> > > 1. I do not recall pronouncing an opinion about "Neogy, Abu Mayanja,
> >Ali
> > >Mazur", but this doesn't prevent anyone else from doing so. My intent
in
> > >posting those excerpts, speaking of which you may expect more, is to
use
> > >"bwino" to refute this hogwash floating around about how great Obote
was;
> > >and to show similiraties between his tactics and style of government
and
> > >that of Museveni. Anyone who does not not agree with anything is free
to
> > >tell us about it, and to defend his/her position vs. the "ink", rather
> >than
> > >me, since I did not write it (I am just a simple messenger).
> > >
> > > 2. Where have I stated that it is impossible or even undesirable to
> >"all
> > >work together at some level"?
> > >
> > > 3. All Mr. Chirs Opoka was asked whether he is now, or if he has
ever
> > >been in any of the intelligence agencies of any government of Uganda;
and
> > >if so which? I agree with Mr Potosi "That, per say, it is never a
crime
> > >to accept employment in the Public service of your country!!". But
that
> > >does not answer the question that was raised. However, Mr. Opoka's
> >refusal
> > >to address the issue speaks volumes.
> > >
> > > Mr. Potosi (and others), would you consider membership in the
Gestapo
> > >and other death-squads as 'service to your country'? Why or why not?
What
> > >of membership in Kalangala Action Plan?
> > >
> > > Mr. Potosi, how does any of this mount to a suggestion that we
> >"dismiss
> > >Mr. Chris Opoka's suggestion"?
> > >
> > > Finally Mr. Potosi, given the demonstrable fact that in, in NONE of
> >the
> > >offensive (Transition) articles did I ever mention Mr. Chris Opoka's
name
> > >even once, where does all this come from? Are you perhaps confusing me
> >with
> > >someone else? Perhaps you are just making assumptions (jumping to
> > >conclusions?).
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > >
> > > From: "Mitayo Potosi"
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: ugnet_: What was life like during Obote I?
> > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 19:09:31 +0000
> > > Mr. Ssemakula and netters,
> > >
> > > This all about "Transition", Neogy, Abu Mayanja, Ali Mazuri etc...
is
> > >all well and good.
> > > But, are we just going to dismiss Mr. Chris Opoka's suggestion that
> > >irrespective of our differences, there are some national aspects that
> > >demand that we all work together at some level?
> > >
> > > Some went off-tangent with allegations of Mr. Opoka having served
his
> > >country in some capacity or another. May be it needs to be stressed
once
> > >again. That, per say, it is never a crime to accept employment in the
> > >Public service of your country!!
> > >
> > > May be many of us also have opinions about "The Transition", Neogy,
> >Abu
> > >Mayanja, Ali Mazur and so on, but at the end of the day we all are
still
> > >bleeding under a junta imposed on us by Celtic-Anglo-Saxon
imperialism!!
> > > Our people are now living like serfs in their homeland!! Our people
in
> > >Acholi Province are literally being exterminated!!
> > >
> > > I beg that we soberly again look at Mr. Opoka's suggestion of
> > >constructing some platform to pull together our energies, to address
> >common
> > >problems in our country!!
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > "Ivinicus factus sum veritabem diceus." ( I have become an enemy for
> > >speaking the truth ) St Paul!
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > Mitayo Potosi
> > > <<<<<<<
> > > Here is a 17K pdf attachment (clear text available) to remind us of
> > >Obote's idea of nivarna. It was written some 30 years ago.
> > >
> > > It appeared in Transition whose editor, the late Rajat Neogy, had
just
> > >'graduated' with honors, from Luzira 'university' and countless others
> >were
> > >busy toiling on their 'studies', at various 'extension branches of the
> > >univesity'. Transition had taken a couple of years without appearing,
and
> > >when it did, it was from Accra, Ghana.
> > >
> > > ssemakula
> > >
> > > ps:-
> > > the author also wrote/edited/co-authored:
> > > - African images : racism and the end of anthropology (1996)
> > > - Cattle and kinship among the Gogo; a semi-pastoral society of
> >Central
> > >Tanzania (1969)
> > > - Cattle, capitalism, and class : Ilparakuyo Maasai transformations
> > >(1992)
> > > - Persistent pastoralists : nomadic societies in transition (1985)
> > > - Society and social change in Eastern Africa (ca. 1969)
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > > Netters,
> > >
> > > Here is a 17K pdf attachment (clear text available) to remind us of
> > >Obote's idea of nivarna. It was written some 30 years ago.
> > >
> > > It appeared in Transition whose editor, the late Rajat Neogy, had
just
> > >'graduated' with honors, from Luzira 'university' and countless others
> >were
> > >busy toiling on their 'studies', at various 'extension branches of the
> > >univesity'. Transition had taken a couple of years without appearing,
and
> > >when it did, it was from Accra, Ghana.
> > >
> > > ssemakula
> > > ps:-
> > >
> > > the author also wrote/edited/co-authored:
> > > - African images : racism and the end of anthropology (1996)
> > > - Cattle and kinship among the Gogo; a semi-pastoral society of
> >Central
> > >Tanzania (1969)
> > > - Cattle, capitalism, and class : Ilparakuyo Maasai transformations
> > >(1992)
> > > - Persistent pastoralists : nomadic societies in transition (1985)
> > > - Society and social change in Eastern Africa (ca. 1969)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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