And the only un answered question remains, "Does Uganda Government want
peace in Northern Uganda?" For any thing you do with out a blessing of
Uganda Government is a total waste of time. And I will repeat what I said in
1986 even before this war became on a centre stage, there will never be
peace in North and East Uganda untill when the Movement gets out of power,
period. For the insecurity is pumped by NRM for its own advantage from day
one. But to accept that you must be a critical thinker, you must have lived
in Luwero during the war, you must have followed the 1979 war in Kasese and
Lake Katwe, after you do that then you compare notes. You will then know why
we must forget peace and do the right thing. A call for the total removal of
NRM from Uganda. I have maintained that position up and untill today, what
scares the hell out of me is that other people have started to agree with
me, after such a long time. Can you imagine if we stated so in 1986? We yes
would have got a chance to save even a single child, but we kept quite and
today we still have those who believe that you can work with NRM and Kony to
find a political solution for a problem. So we have buried Kayiira, we have
buried Tumwesigye, Kiiza Besigye is gone, Kategaya is gone, But we still
expect to have successful peace jokes with Museveni. I come in a forum and I
state that our nation is in anarchy and I am called all names. Where did the
critical thinking delude us from?

Em

            The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
            Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Njoki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 3:33 AM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: REBELS WEAR UPDF UNIFORM!...60 Killed ...THE MONITOR


Once again, the main issue is not what uniform the killers are putting on,
it
is that they are killers. I think there are more reasons to convince me that
most of the killings are being done by the rebels not the government forces.
It
is our collective condemnation of these killings that may force both parties
to
come to the negotiating table. A condemnation of the rebels by UPC, a
section
of which you Matekopolo represents, will come in handy in here.

That UPDF is failling in its responsibilities is not debatable since even
the
commander in chief himself has acknowledged the failure on several
occations.
The same could however also be said of the former national army (UNLA). The
killings of the people in Luwero can by the same token be blamed on the
failure
of UNLA to protect them and their property.

Like the UPC government tried to solve a political problem militarilly and
failed, the present government is also failing to solve a political problem
militarilly. It is high time we broke this cycle. One way of going about it
is
for organisations like  UPC that have gone through the same experience come
out
openly and denounce Konny and his killings.

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> In a message dated 11/10/2003 2:35:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I could be wrong on this, but if I'm not mistaken, the issue at hand
> was
> > whether it was the UPDF killing the people in the North or the Rebels
>
> > having/wearing UPDF uniforms. According to the eye witnesses, the
> rebels in
> > uniforms similar to those of UPDF and not the UPDF possing as rebels,
> killed
> >
> > the people.
>
>  It could also be argued that  it is the  UPDF possing as rebels who are
>
> killing the people. .right?
>
> It is not impossible for the rebels to acquire uniforms similar to >
> those of
> > the UPDF.
>
> If it is possible for the rebels to  acquire UPDF uniforms,.....
> conversly
> it could be argued that  it is equally  possible for the  some elements
> of
> UPDF  to acquire rebel UNIFORMS (which are similar to that of the UPDF)
> and
> carry  out atrocities  while in this uniforms against  ugandans.
> Museveni
> already  engaged  and set a precedent in such tricks.. I am sure our
> learnt friend
> will agree with this fact.
>
>
>  >
> > That all those many people can be killed is a sign that the UPDF is
> failing
> > in
> > its cardinal responsibility of protecting the people of Uganda and
> their
> > property.
>
> That is correct ..and is the only conclusion  we must draw.
>
> >
> > However, the fact that some of us on this forum have not condemned the
>
> > rebels
> > for this killing and insteady seem to derive satisfaction, political
> or
> > otherwise is even a worse sin that that of UPDF's failure.
>
>
> Yeah..."some of us" like who?
>
> >
> > As has been stated on this forum before, the rebel problem in the
> Uganda is
> > a
> > political problem that has to be politically and not militarilly
> addressed.
> >
> > May the souls of those that have perished in these useless wars rest
> in
> > peace.
> >
> >
> >
>
> Matek
>



\\\\\\\"Always be a first rate version of yourself instead of a second rate
version of someone else.\\\\\\\\\\\\\"

Njoki Paul
University of Pretoria


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